In Jan 6 Case Greene Remains
Detained With Ear Piece Cited, DOJ Jensen
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FEDERAL COURT,
August 2 --
On August
2,
months
after the DC
Circuit's
decision in US
v. Munchel, DDC Judge Timothy
J. Kelly
had before him
Capitol breach
defendant Matthew
Greene,
a co-defendant
of Domenic
Pezzola,
seeking
release on
bond. Judge
Kelly, who has
yet to ask on
a formal request for
the DOJ videos
in US v.
Jensen, denied
Greene
bond.
Inner City
Press live
tweeted it here
(and podcast here)
Assistant
US Attorney:
We have videos
from other
cases that are
relevant to
these. The
government's
request is
that we set
another status
in 60 days.
It's my
understanding
Mr. Greene
does not
object. Mr.
Pezzola and
Mr. Pepe, I
don't know
Judge
Kelly: I get
it that the
government
wants to leave
itself wiggle
room, but when
will discovery
be complete?
AUSA:
We are close
on Mr. Pezzola
and Mr. Pepe,
less so Greene
[who is
requesting
release]
Counsel
to Pepe: How
does Chief
Judge Howell's
decision that
grand jury
materials
can't go to
Deloitte
because they
are not
government
employees
impact us? Is
it true now it
won't be ready
until 2022?
Judge
Kelly: I've
heard about
that third
hand
AUSA
[Kenerson] - I
can't speak to
that. We are
not going to
change
vendors.
Judge Kelly:
How about
corralling the
defendants on
October
1? AUSA
Kenerson - I'm
not available
that day. But
AUSA Berridge
is. Berridge:
No, I'm on
trial before
Judge
McFadden.
Judge
Kelly: So
Friday Sept 24
at 10 am, we
might have to
do it
differently
for Mr. Green,
in Northern
Neck. Now the
others can
leave - I'll
keep Mr.
Greene and his
counsel to
argue their
bond motion.
AUSA: I have a
3 pm before
Judge Amy
Berman
Jackson...
Greene's
lawyer: I
asked the
local court to
arraign Mr.
Greene on the
gun charges.
He was
released on
bail, under
our New York
statutes.
Federally, we
acknowledge
this is a
presumption
case, for
breaking a
window at the
Capitol.
Greene's
lawyer: So in
a video, Mr.
Pezzola breaks
a window. But
Mr. Greene has
already
retreated. He
did not aid or
abet Mr.
Pezzola, nor
in the robbery
of the shield
of the police
officer.
Judge
Kelly: There
is a case in
this Circuit
that when a
grand jury
indicts, it
establishes
that fact, at
least for
purposes of
detention.
It's on the
context of a
larger
conspiracy. It
doesn't matter
even if the
evidence is
weak... for
detention
purposes
Judge
Kelly: So it
was other
people in the
group saying
Pelosi,
Pence... I'm
not sure it
matters, for
detention
purposes.
Greene's
lawyer:
Witness-1 told
the FBI that
Mr. Green told
Mr. Pepe to
get rid of
30-round
magazines. But
Mr. Greene had
these at his
home.
Greene's
lawyer: Some
of these
messages, he
admits
sending. They
were a call to
readiness. It
was a chaotic
time in this
country's
history. They
say he
referred to a
fourth
generation
war. But in
Afghanistan he
was supposed
to infiltrate
the Taliban
Greene's
lawyer: So to
him, 4th
generation war
means
information
war. We'd like
you to revoke
the detention
order. He
never answered
the Capitol.
In other cases
people who
brutally
assaulted
police
officers are
being
released. Set
aside the
actions of Mr.
Pezzola
Greene's
lawyer: The
guns, he
bought them
legally. He
served his
country
honorably.
After Jan 18
he continued
to work. They
left him for
another three
months. With
Mr. Greene
detained, we
can't show him
the discovery.
He has a home
here in
Syracuse he
can set up
Judge
Kelly:
Government?
AUSA Kenerson:
The DC Circuit
has ruled in
US v.
Hale-Cusanelli
20 Westlaw
6816245,
nothing in
Federal
Reporter, that
a defendant
will no or
minor criminal
history can be
detained. He
referred to
civil war
AUSA
Kenerson:
After Jan 6,
Mr. Greene
said, "We'll
kill 'em all,"
according to
Witness-1. He
said, load the
magazines and
study guerilla
warfare. He
talked about
Ashli Babbitt
and what the
Capitol police
did to her.
Under Hale, he
can be
detained.
AUSA:
He's been
indicted by a
state court
for the
firearms. He
may have
purchased them
legally, but
he possessed
them
illegally. No
conditions can
assure the
safety of the
community. In
Hale, there
was concern
for a witness.
Greene talking
about an f-ing
rat
Judge
Kelly: In
Hale-Cusanelli
there was no
prior
planning. But
Mr. Greene was
wearing an ear
piece, like
the Proud Boys
Judge
Kelly: I am
going to deny
the motion [to
release Greene
Update: But
still not
action or even
docketing by
Judge Timothy
Kelly on US v.
Jensen, Inner
City Press
asked DOJ (no)
so sent this
on July 27
Judge
Kelly: As to
some facts,
the parties
are in
agreement. The
US says Mr.
Greene
traversed the
barricades;
Mr. Pepe drags
a segment
away... Mr.
Greene replied
to someone, We
took the
Capitol.
Witness-1 says
Mr. Greene
said he would
have killed
Nancy Pelosi
Judge
Kelly:
Witness-1 said
Mr. Greene
said, We'll
kill them all.
Mr. Greene
denies saying
these words
specifically.
But there's a
large mosaic
I'm relying on
to deny the
motion.
Starting Jan
8, Mr. Greene
on Signal
said, "I'm
re-fit"
Judge
Kelly
(quoting)
"These are the
times that try
men's souls."
Greene also
advised the
chat room, if
you think you
are being
followed,
incorporate
double-backs.
On Jan 17,
Greene wrote,
Wake up, no
one will fix
this but us.
This is a
fourth
generation
war.
Judge
Kelly: In our
society,
liberty is the
norm [Citing
Salerno, Sup
Ct. 1987] I am
reviewing this
de novo. I do
find that a
rebuttal
presumption
exists,
because of the
grand jury
indictment and
the penalty of
10 years or
more,
destruction of
US property...
Judge Kelly:
The evidence
here is not
overwhelming.
But the
government is
proceeding
under an
aiding and
abetting
theory. The
grand jury has
charged Mr.
Greene
attempted to
interfere with
law
enforcement
during the
certification
of the
election.
Judge
Kelly: They
used encrypted
apps. Mr.
Greene says he
was not
wearing any
Proud Boys
paraphernalia
that day. But
he had the ear
piece.
Witness-1 says
Mr. Greene
said, We'll
kill them all.
Clearly,
that's
provocative
[sound] He
bought a gas
mask
Judge
Kelly: Mr.
Greene is 32
years old with
no record. In
2010 he went
to serve in
Afghanistan.
This is to his
credit. But
the evidence
that he
engaged in
prior
planning, by
wearing an ear
piece,
apparently to
communicate
with other
Proud Boys
Judge
Kelly: He
ordered ammo
and a gas
mask. And
finally, Mr.
Pezzola, I
mean Mr.
Greene's,
possession of
an unlicensed
firearm, no
conditions
could assure
safety of the
community. I
do not find
that he is a
risk of
flight. I
apologize for
the length of
my ruling.
Judge
Kelly:
Anything
further? No.
[Seems clear
he'll deny
Pezzola as
well.] Inner
City Press
still awaiting
the requested
DOJ video on
US v. McHugh
& US v.
Owens and
others.
Last
week,
Inner City
Press asked
DOJ and then
Judge Kelly
for access to
the videos
that DOJ had
shown to the
court in the
case: judicial
documents
that, under
case law, must
be made
available to
the public. But
it was denied
access, on the
theory that
Judge Kelly's
order earlier
in the month
limited access
to these judicial
documents to a
particular
sub-set of the
public.
Inner
City Press on
July 27 wrote
to Judge
Kelly,
including in
the form of a
motion, now on DocumentCloud, here.
By noon the
next day, July
28, nothing -
no responses,
no response.
We'll
have more on
this. For now,
podcast here;
music video here.
Inner
City Press
live tweeted
Riley June
Williams on
January 25, here.
From January
22, song here:
Thread here.
Inner City
Press' John Earle Sullivan
song on SoundCloud here.
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