In Jan 6 Case of Gieswein
Delay on Plan to Access Deloitte Data Base,
Speedy Trial Tolled
By Matthew
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FEDERAL COURT,
August 13 --
After
the DC
Circuit's
decision in US
v. Munchel, DDC Judge Emmet
G. Sullivan had
before him on
August 11
Capitol
breach
defendant Robert
Gieswein.
An issue
on August 1, as on
August 10 in the
Oath Keepers case,
was when
the Deloitte
data base will
be ready. Not
before
November 9,
more likely
January 2022,
it had
been said -
then denied or
dodged on
August 10. On
August 11
Judge Sullivan
said he was
acting on it,
or would.
Inner City
Press live
tweeted, here
and
below (Aug 10
podcast here)
Now on
August 13,
when the DOJ
and defense
proposal(s) on
language for access
to the Deloitte /
discovery data
based was due,
more delay:
"MINUTE ORDER
granting [38]
unopposed
motion for
extension of
time to file
language of
proposed
order. It is
hereby ORDERED
that the
parties shall
submit the
proposed order
concerning the
defense
discovery
database by no
later than
August 18,
2021. Signed
by Judge Emmet
G. Sullivan on
8/13/2021." Watch
this site.
Judge
Emmet G.
Sullivan is
told that DOJ
cannot put any
date on when
discovery will
be available.
(Contrary to
what Judge
Mehta was told
earlier in the
week).
Judge
Sullivan: I'm
going to toll
the Speedy
Trial Act
clock. I have
in mind a
January trial
date. But if
Mr. Gieswein
does not have
access to the
discovery, he
will be
prejudiced. I
don't want to
be arbitrary.
I want to be
realistic.
Judge
Sullivan: I
like to throw
my thoughts
out there so
people can
respond to it.
I'm thinking
of ordering
the government
to fund a
company or an
entity to make
the discovery
available. In
30 days. Or
I'll consider
sanctioning
the
government.
Judge
Sullivan: We
have COVID,
Delta and
Lamberth, I
mean Lambda.
Can a judge
order jurors
to be
vaccinated?
I'll just
posit, or I
won't - to
what order can
the government
or a judge
order someone
to get a
vaccine? I'm
intending to
set a trial
date today.
Assistant
US Attorney:
Our contract
with Deloitte
allows us to
provide info.
We've been
talking with
nationwide
discovery
coordinators
A.J. Kramer
and Sean
Broderick and
Chief Judge
Howell. [Are
those
communications
public?]
Note:
Intentionally
or not, Chief
Judge Howell's
standing
orders instead
of making DOJ
videos
available to
the public
gave them only
to a few.
Inner City
Press pushed
for weeks to
get any of
them, and
still doesn't
have
Harrelson, letter
Judge
Sullivan:
These are
cases
instigated by
the government
- no, I'm not
going to that
in the order.
Maybe in a
footnote.
(Laughs). I
feel I have to
do something.
AUSA:
Please keep it
general. We
are trying to
work with FPD,
we are
collaborating.
AUSA: We can't
just hit
"Copy." It is
complex. It's
going to take
some time to
do it right.
[How
long? This
week Judge
Mehta was told
that DOJ
hadn't said,
not until
November or
January. But
they had, in Hale-Cusanelli
and other
cases
AUSA:
We need time
to get
everyone where
they need to
be. Defense: I
don't want the
goal of
efficient
production to
500 people to
get in the way
of my client.
Judge
Sullivan: This
is not a class
actions. No
one has asked
me for that.
[So, should
someone?]
Judge
Sullivan: I'm
talking myself
out of a
January trial
date. Defense:
We want a
trial date.
I'm on a
murder trial
in December.
We'd like week
of Jan 24 or
Feb 14. Judge
Sullivan: Week
of Feb 14.
Let's block it
off. Jury
selection,
nothing goes
well on
Monday.
Judge
Sullivan:
Let's do voir
dire Feb 15. I
don't know if
it'll have to
be in the
ceremonial
courtroom. No
one knows.
Usually I set
a deadline for
motions. But
maybe I won't
here. A status
in 30 days. Or
45, since I'm
giving the US
30 to do
something
AUSA:
Time gets
tolled under
3161(h)(1)(c)
Gieswein
starts
speaking and Sullivan
stops him,
says "I don't
want to see
you say
something you
shouldn't,
like
apologize. Do
you want to go
into a break
out room?"
Defense:
Let's. Judge
Sullivan:
You're not
bashful
[Gieswein and
his counsel
have done into
a break out
room.
They're
back. Defense:
Can the court
restate what
it is thinking
of ordering
the US to do?
Judge
Sullivan: I'm
not going to
do that. I'm
going to issue
an order. Why
don't you tell
me what you
want. Defense:
Access to what
the US has.
The Deloitte
data base.
Gieswein's
lawyer: I
cannot
tolerate the
idea of
waiting more
time for
having things
redacted.
Judge
Sullivan: How
would that
work? They
just open
their files?
Defense:
Essentially. A
mirror of
their data
base.
AUSA:
This seems
like an oral
motion for
discovery.
Judge
Sullivan: It
tolls the
Speedy Trial
clock. You
should meet
and confer.
AUSA 2: So do
we have to
reply to the
oral motion?
Can you have
counsel reduce
her motion to
writing? Judge
Sullivan:
Since it's
tolled
Judge
Sullivan: The
US has an
entity
compiling and
analyzing
discovery. The
order will
give 30 days
without
getting into
minutia.
Defense: They
should make it
available in
30 days.
Judge
Sullivan:
Let's pick a
date in 30
days.
Voice: Sept 16
at 3. Judge:
Fine
Voice:
Religious
holiday. Judge
Sullivan: So
Sept 17, 4 pm.
Here are the
reasons to
toll Speedy
Trial until
then: this is
the most
complex case
this Court has
seen. Footage
from C-SPAN
and other
members of the
press. Body
worn...
Judge
Sullivan: That
a defendant is
detained is
not
dispositive.
This delay is
less than
others the DC
Circuit has
upheld. If I
need to write
on this, I
will.
AUSA:
Give us
another day to
file.
Judge
Sullivan: OK.
5 pm tomorrow.
Adjourned
On
August 5,
Inner City
Press filed a
letter and
motion with
Judge Mehta,
now on its
DocumentCloud
here. An excerpt:
"Re:
PUBLIC Access
to videos
(judicial
documents) in
US v.
Harrelson,
21-cr-00028-APM-10
Dear Judge
Mehta:
This is a
request for
access to
videos used as
judicial
documents in
the above
captioned
case, which I
have been
reporting on
for Inner City
Press. Before
this
submission I
asked DOJ for
access to the
videos, citing
your July 13
minute order.... I
have today
been told that
DOJ interprets
your Order as
ONLY requiring
or even
allowing them
to release
these judicial
documents to some,
and not
others. This
seems absurd,
given the case
law about the
availability
of judicial
documents to
the public,
not to a
subset
thereof.
I understand
that DOJ has
interpreted a
number of DDC
orders in the
January 6
cases in this
restrictive
way - this
should be
addressed more
broadly, but
in this
Harrelson
case, this is
a request that
you address
the issue of
whether the
judicial
documents
should be made
available to
the public, or
only a subset
(and if so,
why). I have
also written
to you on USA
v. Schwartz,
21-cr-178
(APM), on June
24 (no
response). If
necessary, to
expedite
things (Inner
City Press is
reporting on
this case
today)
APPLICATION
FOR ACCESS TO
VIDEO
EXHIBITS."
Similarly,
Inner
City Press
asked DOJ and
then Judge
Timothy Kelly
for access to
the videos
that DOJ had
shown to the
court in the
case: judicial
documents
that, under
case law, must
be made
available to
the public. But
it was denied
access, on the
theory that
Judge Kelly's
order earlier
in the month
limited access
to these judicial
documents to a
particular
sub-set of the
public.
Inner
City Press on
July 27 wrote
to Judge
Kelly,
including in
the form of a
motion, now on DocumentCloud, here.
By noon the
next day, July
28, nothing -
no responses,
no response.
We'll
have more on
this. For now,
podcast here;
music video here.
Inner
City Press
live tweeted
Riley June
Williams on
January 25, here.
From January
22, song here:
Thread here.
Inner City
Press' John Earle Sullivan
song on SoundCloud here.
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