At
UN, Guterres Met Saudi FM Without Children and Armed
Conflict Expert, ICP Asks But No
Read-Out
By Matthew
Russell Lee
UNITED NATIONS,
February 3 – When UN Secretary
General Antonio Guterres held
a photo
opportunity and meeting
with Saudi Foreign Minister
Adel Ahmed Al-Jubeir, Inner
City Press went and was
surprised to see that UN
Children and Armed Conflict
(CAAC) expert Leila Zerrougui
wasn't there. And no read-out
was issued.
On
February 3, Inner City Press
asked Guterres' spokesman
Stephane Dujarric, who was in
the meeting, about it. Video
here, UN
transcript here:
Inner City Press:
yesterday, the meeting with
the Saudi Foreign Minister, I
saw that you were there.
So, I wanted to ask you
something about it. I
noticed, first, there's no
readout. Is that a new
policy?
Spokesman: No, sometimes
we have readouts.
Sometimes we don't. They
had what was a very
broad-ranging discussion on
regional issues, and it should
come as no surprise, on Yemen,
on Syria, on Israel and
Palestine, on the
region. It was the first
time they had met as… that Mr.
Guterres had met the Foreign
Minister as Foreign Minister,
so it was a good discussion.
Inner City Press: And
can I ask specifically whether
the issue of the Children and
Armed Conflict annex… I didn't
see Ms. [Leila] Zerrougui up
there. Did she come in
after the photo op? Or,
if she wasn't there, why
wasn't she there? And
did this issue get raised?
Spokesman: As I said, it
was a broad-ranging issue, and
obviously, included… included
Yemen. And there were
no… no one sneaked into the
meeting after the photo op.
When
Guterres' predecessor Ban
Ki-moon took the Saudi-led
Coalition off the CAAC annex
for killing children in Yemen,
it was said discussions would
continue about putting them
back on.
Then
Zerrougui told Inner City
Press she is leaving on March
31. Earlier on February 2
Inner City Press asked
Guterres' (and Ban's before
that) spokesman Stephane
Dujarric, UN
transcript here:
Inner City Press:
I understand from Leila
Zerrougui that she's leaving
31 March. And so I
wanted to ask you how this
impacts the supposed review of
putting the Saudi-led
Coalition back on that
list. Who's going to do
the review…?
Spokesman: The… the… the
office continues. The
mandate continues. And
there is a… an open vacancy on
the public website, but it
doesn't, it has, it doesn't
change the work of the office
or the mandate of that office.
Inner City Press: Will a
report be issued even if
there's not a person in place?
Spokesman: I think we
very much hope that a person
will be, will be in place by
then, and there's no reason to
think that the work of the
office and its mandate will
change.
At the
February 2 meeting, Zerrougui
was not there, but Dujarric
was, and Jeffrey Feltman whom
the Saudis greeted warmly and
one
of his team. Video
here.
Afterward
in the lobby after Jubeir
whispered to pro-Saudi media
Inner City Press asked quite
audibly if Children and Armed
Conflict and Yemen had come
up. There was no answer. Video
here. We'll have more on
this.
Sometimes
Guterres photo ops are more
illuminative, and on February
1 he answered
this Press question. On
February 3 he briefs the
Security Council on South
Sudan and Burundi and, we're
told, US immigration orders.
Then he meets Germany's
foreign minister Sigmar
Gabriel at 2:30 pm.
We'll be there.
On
February 1 Guterres had a photo
opportunity and meeting
with Igor Crnadak, Minister
for Foreign Affairs, Bosnia
and Herzegovina, Guterres said
the UN is worried by news of
the possibility of a
referendum. Periscope
video here, from Minute
2:51.
Before
that, Inner City Press was
ordered by UN Security to stop
or suspend its Periscope
broadcast, which it had begun
one minute before the meeting
time at 3:35. Periscope
here, 0:50, abruptly
cut-off.
Earlier on
February 1, Guterres to his
credit stopped and answered
Inner City Press' question on
if he plans to hire Louise
Arbour as migration adviser.
He said he'll first take the
proposal the UN's Advisory
Committee on Administrative
and Budgetary Questions.
UN
holdover spokesman Stephane
Dujarric on January 31
declined to answer Inner City
Press' related questions
including if French Mission
legal adviser Tanguy Stehelin
is working in Guterres'
office.
On February 1,
Stehelin was one of Guterres'
team at the conference
table. Does he still
work at the French mission?
He's still listed there. We'll
have more on this:
transparency will help the UN.
On January 25 with French
Minister for Development and
Francophonie Jean-Marie Le
Guen, this latter said, "It's
almost a historic day." Periscope
video here, Tweeted
photo here.
Some
wondered if Le Guen might be
referred to the news the new
Administration in Washington
is considering a 40% cut in
its contributions to the UN,
with full cuts to parts of the
UN system accused of violating
human rights.
Thus far
Guterres has yet to hold a
press conference in UN
Headquarters, so it has not
been possible to ask him about
the cuts, or the seemingly
slow pace of transition and
reform so far.
Dubious Under
Secretaries General like
Frenchman Herve
Ladsous at Peacekeeping
and Spain's Cristina
Gallach for "Public
Information" remain in
place; deputy SG Amina
Mohammed will not begin until
at earliest March 2.
Still the
talk on the 38th floor was of
a new energy, of meetings well
into the evening, with
Guterres and his chief of
staff and others.
Inner City
Press intends to report in as
much detail as it can -- it is
still constrained
by Gallach's eviction
and pass-reduction order from
eleven months ago -- but on
January 25 the photo op was
send, by a "sign," before
Guterres said anything beyond
"Comment allez-vous."
Back on January
13 when Guterres met with
President Rafael Correa of
Ecuador, the new chair of the
Group of 77 and China, Correa
gave him a painting. Photo
here; Tweeted
video here. Then,
without words, the Press was
ushered off the 38th floor.
This differed
from Guterres' first four days
in office, when he invited the
press back in and urged his
counterparties to also speak
to “your media.”
While
Inner City Press has
exclusively reported this week
on Guterres-proposed changes,
such as combining the UN's
Rule of Law and Elections
units, UN holdover spokesman
Stephane Dujarric has refused
to confirm or explain,
describing only "co-location."
But when
Inner City Press on January 13
asked for further information,
such as how many staff in UN
headquarters work on Mali,
there was no response.
We'll have more
on this - and on Dujarric's
continuig refusal to answer
UN-specified questions about
the January 10 unsealed
indictment of just-left
Secretary General Ban
Ki-moon's brother and nephew,
who was allowed to work at the
UN's landlord Colliers
International.
All of Inner City
Press' questions, including
about the UN's Office of
Internal Oversight Services,
were referred to Ban's
Seoul-based spokesman at a
phone number that is only a
telephone menu tree all in
Korean.
Guterres
held his second
and third photo
opportunities and
meetings as UN
Secretary General
on January 6, with
Japan's Deputy
Minister for
Foreign Affairs
Shinsuke Sugiyama
(Photos
here, Periscope
here) and
Greek Foreign
Minister Nikos
Kotzias (photos
here, Periscope
here.)
Slightly late to the first
meeting, Guterres cited the need
to prepare for the Astana
(Syria) and Paris (Palestine)
conferences.
Guterres
to his credit made a point of
saying a bit, in public, before
each meeting. With the Japanese
delegation he joked about a
dinner where at least “no one
vetoed the dessert” -- yet --
and with the Greeks, he joked
that their gifts, a book and
music CDs and a box, were too
heavy.
In this Guterres differed from
Ban Ki-moon, but not earlier in
the day when led around to take
selfies with the correspondents
the UN has not, like Inner City
Press, evicted from their
offices for covering UN
corruption, like the Ng Lap Seng
/ John Ashe bribery case. Video
here, story
here.
The Greek meeting followed one
on January 6 with Turkey's
Foreign Minister Mevlüt
Çavusoglu. Photo
here; video
here.
Beyond the pleasantries - and
there were more of these than in
the final days of Ban Ki-moon's
tenure - it was noteworthy
that along with the UN's Cyprus
envoy Espen Barth Eide, Ban's
Under Secretaries General
Feltman, Ladsous and O'Brien
were all there. The "P3 men,"
some call them. Will they be
switched not only for gender,
but nation?
Guterres'
new chief of staff Maria Luiza
Ribeiro Viotti was there; his
Deputy SG Amina J. Mohammed
won't formally begin until next
month. Will that trigger the end
of Ban Ki-moon's era of
censoring and restricting the
Press?
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