On
Haiti ICP Asks
UN About Lax
2015 &
Cholera,
Canada &
Sexual Abuse
By
Matthew
Russell Lee
UNITED
NATIONS,
August
12
-- When
the UN of Ban
Ki-moon is
asked about
bringing
cholera to
Haiti, the
answer is
usually, “Our
position
remains
unchanged” --
that is,
immunity.
Now it's
reported that
may change.
But when Inner
City Press
asked on June
1, Ban's
spokesman
again said,
our position
has not
changed. Video
here, UN transcript
here and
below.
On
August 12,
Inner City
Press asked
Ban's deputy
spokesman Farhan
Haq about UN
negligence,
cholera and
sexual abuse
and
exploitation
in Haiti. Beyond the Vine here, UN Transcript
here:
Inner
City Press: I
have some
questions
about
Haiti.
One has to do
with this OIOS
(Office of
Internal
Oversight
Services)
audit about
waste
management.
I'm sure you
may have…
maybe you have
something
ready on it,
but it seems
to indicate
that even
after the
spread of
cholera that
there continue
to be
negligence and
pouring of
untreated
waste into
canals leaving
behind and
failure to
supervise
contractors as
well.
What's the
UN's response
to that audit
and… and…
including as
relates to its
responsibility
for cholera in
Haiti?
Deputy
Spokesman:
Well,
regarding that
audit, if you
have noticed,
the date on
that audit, it
was completed
as of May
2015.
It's been
disclosed more
recently than
that, but what
the
information is
that we have
from the
Departments of
Peacekeeping
Operation
(DPKO) and of
Field Support
(DFS) is that
the sort of
recommendations
in that report
by the Office
of Internal
Oversight
Services were,
in fact,
implemented
and taken into
account so
that, by
October 2015,
or almost a
year ago, all
of the
appropriate
steps were put
in
place.
So, at this
point, they
report that
the remedies
that were
needed have
been taken.
ICP
Question:
Sure.
But I guess
what I'm
saying is, if
even… as you
put it, up
until… up
until October
2015, these
type of
practices took
place, does
this not cast
some light on…
on what the
practises were
at the time
that the
cholera took
off in Haiti
and… and… and
caused the UN
to rethink its
invocation of
immunity as to
its
responsibility
for that?
Deputy
Spokesman:
It's certainly
worrying that
it took as
long as it did
for some of
these problems
to be
rectified.
You will have
seen over the
years, and the
report itself
makes clear,
that there
were steps
that needed to
have been
taken.
And it's a
grave
disappointment
that it took
as long as it
did. As
of now, those
steps have
been taken.
ICP
Question:
One more on
Haiti just
quickly.
I wanted to…
this had to do
with the case
where the
Canadian
police that
served in
MINUSTAH
(United
Nations
Stabilization
Mission in
Haiti) went
back and were
allowed to
retire with
benefits, and
one was
suspended for
only nine
days.
Mario Joseph,
a well-known
Haitian
lawyer, is in
Montreal at
this world
social
forum.
And he said
that… at least
in his
opinion, that…
that the way…
the failure to
punish in
Canada
reflects on
the UN in
Haiti, that
the UN needs
to take action
to ensure that
people that it
brings that…
that engage in
sexual
exploitation
or… or abuse
are held
accountable in
the home
country.
So I wanted to
know, do you
have any… it…
it… I think it
was said it
was totally up
to
Canada.
But I'm saying
people there
don't seem…
see it in that
light.
What do you
think?
Deputy
Spokesman:
The way the
legal process
works with the
soldiers is up
to the
national
authorities.
What we try to
do as the UN
is push the
countries to
make sure that
there are
prosecutions
or some form
of
accountability
for the
soldiers who
commit
wrongdoing.
We try to get
commitments,
therefore,
from the
countries that
they'll follow
up. In
this case,
Canada
followed up,
but whether
that was
sufficient or
insufficient
is something
that people
need to take
up with the
respective
Government.
We don't have
control over
their legal
process.
ICP
Question:
Right, but
there's a lot
of talk now of
Canada
stepping up
its
participation
in
peacekeeping.
They seem to
want to be on
good footing
with
DPKO.
Wouldn't it be
a time to sort
of seek these
type of
commitments?
Deputy
Spokesman:
We certainly
hope that any
country that
contributes
will be able
to ensure that
their troops
will be held
accountable,
and that's
something we
will seek from
all
countries.
On July 12,
then, Inner
City Press
asked about
Rep Maxine
Waters, UN
transcript
here:
Inner
City Press: US
congresswoman
Maxine Waters
has announced
that she sent
a letter on
the date of 6
July to the
Secretary-General
urging him to
pay
compensation
to the victims
of Cholera and
saying that he
should
reconsider the
Legal
Counsel's
advice in
light of the
special
rapporteurs.
Have you
received it?
Spokesman
Stephane
Dujarric:
Yes, we have.
Inner City
Press:
Will you be
responding to
it?
Spokesman:
We will be
responding.
I assume that
response will
be shared with
Congresswoman
Waters, whom
the
Secretary-General
very much
appreciates.
He saw her
when he was
last in
California.
And then we'll
see what we
can share with
you.
But, again, I
think I'd
refer you back
to what the
Secretary-General
said in terms
of his feeling
towards Haiti
when he was in
Haiti last and
he met with
victims of
Cholera, and
of course our
ongoing
efforts to get
funding for
water and
sanitation
programmes in
Haiti.
CInner City
Press:
Right.
But, she's
talking about
compensation.
Spokesman:
I understand.
One
of Ban's two
least
accountable
Under
Secretaries
General, Herve
Ladsous, has
appeared in
Haiti -- but
took only
three
questions,
none of them
on cholera.
The UN's
Department of
Public
Informaition
under USG
Cristina
Gallach pumped
out a
propaganda
video about
cholera which
did not even
mention that
the UN brought
the disease,
and has
refused to pay
any
reparations to
families who
lost their
bread winner,
their
schooling,
their homes.
This is
impunity.
Ladsous
on the run -
right out of
DPKO, we're
hearing...
On June
29, 158
members of the
U.S. Congress
wrote to
Secretary of
State John
Kerry asking
that he and
the State
Department
make the UN
answer for
bringing
cholera to
Haiti,
including with
reparations to
victims.
On June
30, Inner City
Press asked
Ban's spokesman
Stephane
Dujarric for
Ban's response
to the letter,
video
here, UN transcript
here:
Inner
City Press:
I'm sure
you've seen
this.
158 members of
the US
Congress have
written to the
State
Department
urging them to
have the UN be
accountable,
including
paying
reparations
for having
brought
cholera to
Haiti.
It's a pretty
large number
of
congresspeople,
and I'm
wondering what
is the… what's
the response
to it?
Spokesman:
Obviously,
we've seen…
we… you know,
we've seen
those
reports.
I think the
UN's
commitment to
helping Haiti,
helping the
people of
Haiti overcome
the many
challenges
that they have
remains the
same,
especially on
issues of
water and
sanitation.
We have worked
tirelessly in
an effort to
raise funds to
address these
issues, and we
will continue
to do so.
Inner City
Press:
Right.
But the…
they've
obviously seen
those
presentations.
The word
“reparation”
is the one
that they're
using in terms
of people who
lost homes,
education.
Is there any
thinking by
the UN to try
to address
that?
Spokesman:
We're trying
to do as much
as we can to
address the
very
challenging
sanitation
situation in
Haiti.
The letter,
here, is
sponsored by
Rep. John
Conyers (D-MI)
and Rep. Mia
Love (R-UT)
and includes
11 other
Republicans;
half of the
House
Committee on
Foreign
Affairs (HCFA)
i.e. 22 of its
44 members,
including six
Republicans;
ten of the 14
members of
HCFA's Western
Hemisphere
Subcommittee,
four
Republicans
and six
Democrats; and
four of the
eight members
of HCFA’s
Africa, Global
Health, Global
Human Rights,
and
International
Organizations
("Global
Health")
Subcommittee,
two from each
party.
Republican
HCFA
signatories
include former
HCFA chair
Ileana
Ros-Lehtinen,
current Global
Health
Subcommittee
Chair
Christopher
Smith, and
Representatives
Daniel
Donovan,
Michael
McCaul, Steve
Chabot, and
Lee Zeldin.
The 16 HCFA
Democrats
include the
respective
ranking
members of the
HCFA itself,
Rep. Eliot
Engel, and of
its Western
Hemisphere and
Global Health
Subcommittees
respectively,
Representatives
Albio Sires,
and Karen
Bass. We'll
have more on
this.
From
the UN's June
1 transcript:
Inner
City Press: I'm
sure you've
seen The
Guardian piece
about Mr.…
Deputy
Secretary-General
[Jan]
Eliasson's
letter about
cholera in
Haiti.
And it's being
portrayed as a
possible
breakthrough
or change in
position.
I wanted to
know if, in
fact, it is,
as the letter
apparently
says that the
prom… that the
promise of
resources
could be
fine-tuned or
expanded as
needed.
And I wanted
to know
whether this
involves any
consideration
of paying
compensation
to the
families who
had a
breadwinner or
other family
member killed
by the
cholera.
Spokesman:
What is… the
UN's position
on the legal
claims has not
changed.
What has also…
always been
the case is
the UN's
determination
to help the
people of
Haiti with the
cholera
outbreak and
with the
impact of the
cholera
outbreak.
I think the
Secretary-General,
if you look
back to the
statements
that he made
when he was in
Haiti,
expressed
clearly the
will and his
commitment to
help the
people of
Haiti.
That also
involves
donors
stepping up
and funding
the necessary
projects that
are needed to
deal with the
outbreak.
The UN on the
ground has
already made…
has already
worked clearly
in that… to
that effect,
providing
assistance to
national
sanitation
campaigns,
ensuring that
certain
villages are
free of open
defecation,
and also bring
whatever
support they
can.
Question:
The
piece is
saying this
represents a
change in
position.
Are you saying
that it's not…
there's no
change in
position?
Spokesman:
Well, I think…
I'm telling
you our
position.
Obviously,
journalists
are free to
interpret it
one way or
another.
Inner City
Press:
What was the
impact of five
Special
Rapporteurs
writing to the
Secretary-General
and saying
that the UN's
reputation is
being injured
by not
offering
compensation?
Spokesman:
I think we
clearly hear
what the
Special
Rapporteurs
are
[saying].
The respect
for human
rights remains
at the centre
of what we do
and how we try
to act every
day.
Inner City
Press:
And just one
related
question,
maybe you'll
have it or you
can get
it.
What's
happening with
the Kosovo… it
was said that
it was
recommended
that the
mission pay
for
lead-poisoned
children?
Spokesman:
I have no
update on
that.
The UN
in Kosovo left
Roma children
lead poisoned
by putting
there in a
refugee camp
by an old
mine. In that
horrendous
case -
video here -
the UN is now
said to be
considering
compensation.
Why not in
Haiti? On May
16, Inner City
Press asked
Ban Ki-moon's
deputy
spokesperson
Farhan Haq,
UN transcript
here:
Inner
City Press: On
Kosovo, since
it's in the
Council today,
I wanted to
ask whether it
was said in
April that
Zahir Tanin
had raised to
the UN
Headquarters
this idea of
paying
compensation
for the Roma
children that
were living in
a camp over…
and got lead
poisoning.
Now that it's
mid-May, what…
what… one, can
you confirm
how this was
raised?
And what is
the process at
the UN to
decide whether
to pay this
compensation
or not?
Deputy
Spokesman:
I believe that
process is
still under
way. I
don't have
anything to
add to what
Stéphane said
about this
several weeks
back.
But, as you
know, that
there was a
panel that
made its
recommendations,
which are
being
evaluated, and
we're trying
to follow up.
Question:
And how is
that… I guess…
many people
don't
understand
it. How
is this
process
different than
the one on
Haiti?
Like, was a
panel set up
by the UN to
decide whether
to even
consider
compensation
or what's the
difference?
Deputy
Spokesman:
They're
completely
different
circumstances.
They have had
different
bodies looking
into
them.
They have had
different ways
of looking at
it.
You'll have
seen what
we've had to
say about
Haiti.
It's a
separate
matter.
We'll
have more on
this.
For now, NYT
of May 14 here.
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