In Sprint Trial Ergen Of DISH Says
Sprint Is A Laggart Now Public To Be
Excluded
By Matthew
Russell Lee, Patreon
SDNY COURTHOUSE,
Dec 17 – After more states
lining up against the proposed
T-Mobile / Sprint merger, on
which a two week trial to
begin December 9 before U.S.
District Court
for the
Southern
District of
New York Judge
Victor
Marrero. Inner
City Press
began what
will be a
trial-long
live-tweet, here.
D7 Patreon here.
On December 17
Charlie Ergen
of DISH
testified,
saying for
example that
"Sprint is a
laggard."
Judge Marrero
agreed to hear
the parties in
his robing
room, and then
and only then
decide whether
to release a
redacted
transcript.
Some asked,
Public
interest?
Here's some of
how it went,
more on
Patreon here:
OK
-
@Tmobile
@Sprint
merger trial
Day 7 has
started back
up on a delay,
the T-Mobile
tech Kapoor
bragging about
5G - but
what's the
response on
higher costs
passed on to
consumers, per
what #Sprint
whistleblowers
say?
Q&A
has turned to
the Internet
of Things,
DISH, Charlie
Ergen: Q:
Building a
wireless
network, you
are not here
to say it's
easy, right?
A: It's
hard, Q:
So does DISH
have any
spectrum? A:
Yes we do.
Q:
Have you hired
recently
executives
from other
companies to
join DISH to
work on this
wireless
network? A: We
have a strong
community. But
we were
lacking some
skills, like
in R&D.
We've hired,
for example,
the CTO of
Sprint
A:
We've hired, I
don't want to
bore the
court, a Cloud
guy. Q: And
these guys are
already
working for
Sprint today?
A: They better
be. (Some
laughter).
Charlie Ergen:
At DISH, we've
been able to
do that with
band 29,
that's the 850
megahertz
Q:
You've had
some bumps in
the road.
Ergen: Not
unsurmountable.
We use our
skills sets to
work through
them. We now
have a team in
DISH that's
had to see me
every day,
until late at
night. Yeah
we've made
some mistakes,
that's how you
learn.
Q:
You see this
letter, Mr
Ergen, that
your company
sent to the
FCC? A: They
had questions
about our IOT
network. In
part because
no one built
one before. In
the summer of
2018. This was
our response.
Q:
You told the
FCC and the
DOJ that you
didn't like
this merger,
right? Ergen:
Not as it was
structured. Q:
So you met
with the DOJ,
head of
antitrust
division?
Ergen: Yes. Q:
You are now a
divestiture
buyer. Was
that discussed
at the first
meeting?
Ergen: No.
Ergen:
I told DOJ
about other
countries
where they had
gone from four
to three. They
asked me for a
list. I was
familiar, but
I asked our
Washington
team to submit
it. Q: Did you
have in mind
then that DISH
would be the
divestiture
buyer? Ergen:
I hoped
so
Ergen: Other
had spectrum
but sold it to
Verizon, sold
it to Sprint.
Q: So there
was a
negotiation.
Ergen: That's
a
simplification.Q:
Now there's
been talk here
about a
conflict of
interest,
with
@Tmobile
with their
fancy network
they're trying
to sell like
hotcakes, and
you over here,
a conflict.
Ergen: If they
could get away
with it they
would. But it
would be
difficult with
the monitor
Q:
So the
monitor, he's
already been
approved?
Ergen: Yes.
Ullyot,
U-L-L-Y-O-T.
He's already
been approved
by
@Tmobile
and by
@DISH . He was
the general
counsel of
Facebook.
Ergen:
If people can
port their
phones, too,
it helps us,
we have 9M
customers, we
can get more.
Q: You've got
that fancy
T-Mobile
network, and
you can sell
as much on it
as you can in
three years,
is that
normal? Ergen:
This agreement
makes us
competitive
day 1Ergen: As
hard as we
pushed, we got
to 12.5%. We
traded some
things away to
get that. We
knew it would
limit our
ability to get
customers. But
then DOJ got
involved. And
this is much
better. [Inner
City Press
aside: A happy
customer of
government]
Q:
Now you're the
divestiture
buyer. Did DOJ
do any due
diligence on
DISH? Ergen:
They did. They
spoke with our
engineers, our
marketing
people. They
spoke with me.
Q: Do you
believe DISH
can be a
competitor in
Year One?
Ergen: I do.
Q:
Mr. Ergen, do
you have a
view of Sprint
as a
competitor?
Ergen: Sprint
has not been
in a spectrum
auction in ten
years. Q: How
many
subscribers
does Sprint
have? Ergen:
Adding pre-
&
post-paid, 40
million. They
have some
wholesale.
Let's say just
north of 50M.
Ergen
line of the
day: "Sprint
is a
laggard."
Q: I'd like to
talk about
commitments
DISH has made.
Tell me about
this letter.
Ergen: It's
our
commitments to
the FCC in
this
transaction.
Q: You know
what you're
supposed to
do. Ergen: I
definitely
know.
[laughter]
Ergen: We've
been trying to
get into the
wireless
business for
the last ten
years... We've
never missed a
final
milestone
commitment.
Sometimes
people try to
keep you from
entering the
marketplace,
they can be
sneaky. They
talk to a
reporter, to
an analyst
Ergen:
If you're a
big company in
this industry,
last thing you
want is DISH
coming in. I'm
sure I'll be
asked about
that. I'm not
sure which
side will ask.
Q: I certainly
will. Ergen:
Mr Legere
called us a
hoarder. That
has some bad
connotation.
But FCC
approved
Ergen:
In this
letter, they
are accepting
our request to
waive the
interim
milestone and
accelerate
toward the
final
milestone.
There's not
any
controversy
about this,
except from
our
competitors.
Ergen:
With 5G, it's
like your
central
nervous
system...
Architecture
today, when I
first started,
I had a big
desk top
computer. Now
it's all in
the
cloud.
When you go
home tonight,
you'll see a
cell tower
with a shed
under it.
That's go
away, into the
cloud
Things
are getting
folksier and
folksier over
here: Ergen:
It's like
trying to
change the
wheels on your
car as you're
driving. It's
very
difficult.
Ergen: I've
been dealing
with the
bankers, got
some "highly
confident"
letters
Ergen: That's
a high
confident
letter for $10
billion from
Stanley
Morgan.
No, sorry,
Morgan
Stanley. At
Tennessee
there use to
be a football
player named
Stanley
Morgan. I'm
going back to
my college
days
Seems
this Morgan
Stanley letter
was not
provided in
discovery. His
lawyer insists
he got it the
first day of
trial, that's
why it was not
provided.
Now Marrero
says the
states are
free to cross
examine about
it.
Ergen:
It has to go
through a
credit
committee. If
I knew the
decision on
this trial,
and it was a
favorable
decision, I'd
move forward
on the
letter.
Ergen: We have
another $10
billion highly
confidential
letter from
Deutsche Bank.
And JPMorgan.
Ergen:
Where the
markets are
today, if we
don't have
another Nine
Eleven, God
forbid, the
banks are
confident. For
a good
business plan,
the markets
are always
open. We have
enough money
to purchase
Boost and
start building
our network as
soon as this
deal closes
Q:
OK Mr. Ergen
this is the
first part
about the
business plan,
the part which
can be done in
open
court. Q
Mr. Ergen how
is DISH
planning to
set its
prices? Ergen:
We look at
where the
market is and
come in
somewhat
lower.
Now
Judge Marrero
says he will
hear a
"confidential"
presentation
tomorrow, "not
in this room
but in the
adjourning
room."
Day
II morning here.
More on
Patreon here.
Day III here.
More D3 on
Patreon here.
Day IV here.
More D4 on
Patreon here.
Day V here.
More on D5 on
Patreon here.
Day VI here.
More on D6 on
Patreon here.
Day VII here.
More on D7 on
Patreon here.
On
December 16
SoftBank's
Marcelo
Claure,
Sprint's
Michel Combes
and T-Mobile's
Ankur Kapoor
testifed;
during the
last Judge
Marrero was
told to look
at papers
handed to him
containing
ostensibly
confidential
congestion
information.
Isn't it a
public
interest
trial? Here's
some
of how it
went, more on
Patreon here
On December
13, T-Mobile's
John Legere
was
cross-examined
and let it all
hang out, see
below. Next up
a more
corporate Mike
Sievert
testified.
Inner City
Press
live-tweeted
it, then
published it
story and
tweeted a link
to it.
An
hour later a
public
relations
representative
emailed Inner
City Press
requesting a
change. Not of
the analysis,
but to be sure
to spell
Sievert
correctly:
"Hi
Matthew – I’m
reaching out
on behalf of
my client in
hopes that you
can make one
minor
adjustment to
your tweet
from 9:12pm ET
(pasted below
for
reference). If
you could
change
“Siebert” to
“Sievert” that
would be much
appreciated.
Thank you and
please have a
great
weekend.
COURTROOM
CHRONICLES: In
@Sprint Merger
Trial
@JohnLegere of
@TMobile Shows
Himself As
#SDNY Judge
Marrero Asks
About Flower
Children,
Before Low
Energy Mike
Siebert
@SDNYLIVE"
And who was
it, who
requested this
correction
(which Inner
City Press did
in a
reply)?
A Vice
President at Abernathy
MacGregor,
Strategic
Communications
Counsel --
representing
T-Mobile.
"Just spell my
[Mike's?] name
right?"
Legere's
testimony
culminated in
Judge Victor
Marrero asking
him if he
could remain a
flower child
or would
instead, post
merger, join
the boys'
club. Legere
said never -
but his
successor Mike
Sievert then
looked very
much the boys'
club member.
How will it
cut with
Marrero?
Here's some
of how it went
(more on
Patreon here)
Back
on December a
final
pre-trial
conference was
held. The
plaintiff
states' lawyer
Glenn D.
Pomerantz
dominated the
conference,
going through
each of the
four points in
his letter to
Judge Merrero
and more.
T-Mobile or
Deutsche
Telekom's
lawyer David
I. Gelfan of
Cleary
Gottlieb
wanted more
than 50% of
the time
allotted.
Judge Marrero
shot that
down, saying
that to him
equitable
means cut in
half. Judge
Marrero
largely tried
to avoid the
disputes,
urging the
lawyers to
settle their
conflicts and
try their
cases.
Where
Judge Marrero
drew the line
was on timing
and exhibits.
He still aims
at a two week
bench trial,
saying he's
willing to go
to six pm to
accomplish
that. He urged
exhibits to be
agreed in
advance. He
said one of
the questions
will be
DISH.
There will be
a Comcast
witness. Inner
City Press is
covering the
trial. The
case is State
of New York,
et al., v.
Deutsche
Telekom AG, et
al.,
19-cv-5434
(Marrero).
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