In DC
Insurrection Case Ex-NYPD Tom Webster Is
Detained By SDNY Judge Krause
By Matthew
Russell Lee, Patreon Podcast
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SDNY COURT, Feb
23– During
closing
arguments of
the
impeachment
trial in the
U.S. Senate,
insurrectionist Thomas
Edward Caldwell
was ordered
detained until
trial by District
Judge Amit P.
Mehta.
Inner City
Press live
tweeted it, here and
below.
(US v.
Caldwell
affidavit on
Patreon here).
Now
on February 23
ex NYPD
officer Homas
Webster who
was present at
the Capitol smashing
a barricade
with a flag pole
and attacking
an ooffier,
was ordered
detained
pending trial.
Inner City Press
live tweeted
it here
(and just
after the
proceeding,
the US
Complaint, on
Inner
City Press' DocumentCloud,
here)
Before
SDNY
Judge Andrew
E. Krause,
it's US v.
Webster.
Judge
Krause: State
your full name
and age. A:
Thomas
Webster, 54. I
have some
college, a few
credits short
of an
Associates
degree.
AUSA:
Mr. Webster
surrendered to
FBI yesterday.
Judge
Krause:
Can we get
Agent Patricia
Norton to
swear to this
Rule 5
affidavit?
Agent Norton:
Yes. Judge
Krause: Mr.
Webster, you
are charged
with 6
violations.
Impeding and
obstructing
officers, with
weapon
Judge
Krause: There
is body cam
video, and
open source
video. Defense
lawyer: I
don't have a
copy of the
affidavit. But
we can
proceed. We
waive the
identity
hearing.
AUSA:
We are seeking
detention of
Mr. Webster.
Webster's
lawyer: We
will be making
a bail
argument.
Judge Krause:
I have
reviewed three
videos. Body
cam from
officer
identified by
initials. And
a video from
YouTube, URL
is in
paperwork
[Where?]
AUSA:
I expect the
defense to
argue that now
that President
Biden is in
office, the
danger is
passed. But
that is not
true. AUSA: Mr
Webster faces
5 years, even
if he pleads.
As a Marine,
he swore to
uphold the
Constitution.
But he didn't.
He turned
himself in
without his
phone, and
claimed he
lost the
jacket.
Kindergarteners
do that, not
adults.
Webster's
lawyer: 20
years with the
police
department,
they don't
give him any
credit for
that. He
wasn't part of
any
organization.
Except for the
video, he is
no danger.
He's done a
terrific job
as father of
three. He came
forward on his
own.
Webster's
lawyer:
Pre-Trail
recommends he
be released on
an unsecured
bond. He has
lived a good
life,
financially
stable,
terrific
marriage. He
has a right to
fair bail.
Judge
Krause: Let's
dispense with
the hyperbole
and the florid
language. He
may well have
last his
jacket. And
the notion
that he should
get bail
because he
surrendered,
that's not the
standard
either. It's
not a big
thumb on the
scale.
AUSA:
It's fair to
note Mr.
Webster's
service as a
Marine, and
with the NYPD.
But it cuts
both ways. He
should have
known better.
And most of
the violent
ringleaders of
the riot were
people with
military
experience.
Judge
Krause: The
conduct on the
video does
shock the
conscience.
Particularly
because of his
proud track
record as a
public
servant. I
greatly value
the service of
our armed
forces and
domestic law
enforcement.
As a public
servant
myself...
Judge Krause:
I am perplexed
by comparing
the resume to
this video - a
person who
flat out
attacks a law
enforcement
officer,
verbally which
is not a
crime, then
with a metal
pole. The pole
gets bent.
Then he
charges
through the
barricade...
Judge
Krause: When
he was with
NYPD, I
imagine he
would have
wanted a flag
pole swinger
to be
arrested.
Webster: Can I
speak? Judge
Krause: Speak
to your lawyer
- generally,
not a good
idea to speak
for yourself.
We'll set up a
break out for
10 minutes.
They're
back.
Webster's
lawyer: With
the NYPD, he
never fired
his service
weapon. And
this was his
first protest.
The video
exchange
between him
and the
officer was
precipitated
by him being
punched by the
officer.
AUSA:
Yes, Mr.
Webster says
he was struck.
He have
acquired the
full body cam
footage. We
watched 10
minutes before
and there's
nothing in
there to
suggested Mr.
Webster was
struck by
anyone. It's a
self serving
statement,
likely a
fabrication
AUSA:
That he never
fired a shot,
I commend him
for restraint-
but we have
every reason
to believe he
had a gun in
the Capitol.
1st protest?
I'm not saying
he couldn't
express his
views, no
matter how
misguided. But
protecting the
Constitution?
Doesn't hold
water
Judge
Krause: You
have the right
to free
speech. But
what we see in
this video
goes beyond
that, moves
into criminal
activity.
[AUSA said, It
broke bad,
really bad.]
Judge
Krause: On
balance, under
each factor.
1st, the
charges here
strongly
support
detention.
Judge Krause:
On the other
hand, his
history weighs
for release.
He's a
business
owner, a
valuable
member of
society in his
prior public
service. And
Pre-Trial
recommends
release. At
the end of the
day, the
danger is
real. He poses
a danger.
Judge
Krause: I am
detaining him
as a danger,
not on risk of
flight. I
remand him to
the custody of
the AG. He has
the right to
appeal to a
District Judge
at some
further point.
OK,
it's done -
former NYPD
officer
Webster is
being detained
pending trial
in DC.
We'll
have more on
this.
Inner
City Press
live tweeted
Riley June
Williams on
January 25, here.
From January
22, song here:
Thread here.
Inner City
Press' John Earle Sullivan
song on SoundCloud here.
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