In SDNY Case of Parnas and Fruman
Issues of Warrantless Wiretaps and
Superseding Indictment Raised
By Matthew
Russell Lee, Patreon Periscope
SDNY COURTHOUSE,
Dec 2 – Whether any US
government agency engaged in
wiretapping not authorized by
a court in connection with the
prosecution of Lev Parnas,
Igor Fruman, David Correia and
Andrey Kukushkin came up near
the end of a conference in the
case on December 2,
live-tweeted by Inner City
Press here.
More on Patreon,
here.
U.S.
District Court
for the
Southern
District of
New York Judge
Paul Oetken
asked the
defense
lawyers to
formalize the
issue and any
legal
authority in a
letter to him.
The next
conference in
the case is
set for
February 3 at
2 pm. Here's
the blow
by blow:
Judge
Oetken says
attendance by
Fruman has
been waived.
Judge wants an
update on
government's
production for
discovery from
AUSA Zolkind
(who also
worked on
prosecution of
UN bribers Ng
Lap Seng and
Patrick Ho).
AUSA
Zolkind: I
have well over
nine gigabyte
of data... The
next category
consists of
warrants, on
email accounts
and iCloud
accounts and
physical
premises and
electronic
devices, some
seized during
arrest and
some at
premises. Do
you want to
hear more?
Judge
Oetken: Yes
AUSA
Zolkind:
three iPhone,
one thumb
drive... one
SIM card, one
Sat phone, one
iPad, three SD
cards...
[this is
like a
Christmas
carol - except
for a
partridge in a
pear tree]
AUSA
Zolkind: We
show each
defendant his
email account
after we
obtain it. The
relevant
documents, we
show to all
defendants.
That's a
process that
will continue
as we get
access to
additional
accounts and
devices.
There's
additional
stuff that is
coming Inner
City Press
@innercitypress
· 1h AUSA
Zolkind: There
have been
issues raised
by the
defendants
about
privilege. We
have a taint
team reviewing
before the
prosecutors.
As to the
devices, often
time they are
encrypted. The
FBI's
technical
experts are
working
overtime.
Judge
Oetken: I'll
hear from the
defense. Looks
like you got a
bunch of stuff
on November
21. Are we in
position to
set a date for
motions? Or if
not,
conference to
set a
date.
Fruman's
lawyer: I was
never asked to
provide a
password. I am
concerned at
the delay
Fruman's
lawyer: I
wanted a trial
by summer.
That may be
unrealistic
given what's
been said
today. I still
want to set a
trial date
today. Judge
Oetken: It's
going to be 60
days before
you get the
relevant
material.
We're not in a
position to
set a motion
schedule
Correia's
lawyer
Harrington: In
the normal
course there
would be a
sooner trial
date and
government
would have to
tell us who
their
witnesses are
and what
they'd say.
Judge
Oetken: Would
you like to
set a trial
date for the
Fall?
Harrington:
Hard to set
for now
Andrey
Kukushkin's
lawyer
Lefcourt:
Today is the
first day of
new Federal
rule of
discovery
16... We gave
them a
terabyte hard
drive; they
gave us 70,000
Bates stamps.
26 blanked out
pages on one
warrant. We
still don't
know when
that's coming
Lefcourt:
Rule 16.1
contemplates a
better
process. Have
the government
provide a
draft exhibit
list. Also to
consider 3500
material
earlier than
possible. 16.1
talks about
getting
defendants
ready for
trial. We have
to wait for
another
conference.
AUSA
Zolkind: The
government
would object
to putting
together an
exhibit list
at this point.
They've gotten
search
warrants and
affidavits, we
can direct
them to
particular
bank records.
So far we
haven't been
asked.
AUSA
Zolkind: With
respect to the
redactions to
the warrants,
there's an
order for
that, based on
an ex parte
presentation.
If they want
things faster,
they can give
us the
passwords.
Judge Oetken:
Have you
asked?
Zolkind: We're
happy to have
that
discussion.
AUSA
Zolkind: There
is an ongoing
investigation,
so producing
witness
statements
before
normally might
jeopardize
that. As to
3500 material,
we prefer a
"reasonable
period of time
before trial."
Judge
Oetken: What's
a reasonable
time for a
conference?
Zolkind: Why
not a schedule
for motions
now? Judge
Oetken (to the
defense
lawyers) - if
you have a
motion about
the
indictment,
why not
schedule it
now? A
request is
made for the
Grand Jury
exhibits.
Judge Oetken:
Why can't you
give them the
exhibits and
transcripts of
the Grand
Jury?
AUSA
Zolkind: The
transcripts
are
confidential.
I'm resisting
that we have
to put
together an
index of
exhibits. I'm
not aware of
that ever
being required
of the
government.
Judge
Oetken: I've
have you come
back in around
two months and
say where you
are, at that
point set a
motion
schedule,
maybe a trial
date. Do you
expect to
supersede?
AUSA Zolkind:
Our
investigation
is ongoing and
a superseding
indictment is
likely.
Judge
Oetken: So
let's make it
Feb 3 at 2 pm,
I'm not sure
what courtroom
it will be in,
I'll put it on
ECF.
Now issue of
House subpoena
to Parnas.
AUSA Zolkind
says the
protective
order might
limit Parnas'
ability to
provide info
to Congress
AUSA
Zolkind: If
Parnas gives
us the
password,
we'll give him
the
extraction.
Then he'd have
to ask court
permission to
provide any of
it to
Congress.
Q: Why don't
the
prosecutors
give it to the
House? Judge
Oetken: Do you
want to
address the
paper records
issue?
AUSA
Zolkind: We
are well on
the way to
scanning in
the material.
We are not
going to
object to his
application to
the court to
provide the
information to
the House.
Judge Oetken:
OK, you're a
separate
branch of
government.
But there's no
process to
share?
Judge
Oetken: It
certainly
seems there is
a public
interest in
providing that
information to
the House... I
certainly
expect to
promptly grant
such a
request. I
hope the
government
produces those
material as
soon as
possible. AUSA
Zolkind:
Yes...
Now
discussion
turns to
Parnas' risk
of flight,
reference to
private jets
and oligarch
in Vienna who
is fighting
extradition.
AUSA Zolkind:
home detention
with
electronic
monitoring is
important to
the
government, so
he doesn't get
on a boat or
seek a
passport
Judge
Oetken says he
wants to hear
the pre-trial
services'
opinion.
Lefcourt: They
said no Title
III - but is
there any
wiretap by
another
agency? I've
asked under 18
USC 3504,
since Count 1
relates to
Ukraine, and
Court 4 with
Russia.
Lefcourt:
I've watched
those
hearings...
National
Security
officials said
they have been
involved in
aspect of this
case. So I am
asking the
court to ask
the government
to respond
under 3504.
This is the
time, to
disclose
surveillance
without
authorization
Judge
Oetken: This
is not a
statute I've
dealt with
before, so
I'll take a
look at it.
AUSA Zolkind:
We told them,
the government
does not
intend to use
information
obtained or
derived under
FISA. We
cannot comment
on if there
existed a FISA
intercept.
AUSA
Zolkind: My
understanding
is that 3504
only applies
to a
proceeding in
which we are
offering
evidence -
that is, it
does not apply
today. So it's
premature.
Judge Oetken:
Mr. Lefcourt,
do you have
any authority
on this?
Lefcourt: I
will submit a
letter.
AUSA
Zolkind: We
told them we
are aware of
our
obligations
under Brady
and Giglio [he
says the
second G]. "At
this point we
don't
anticipate
filing a CIPA
motion." Judge
Oetken: I'll
look at any
letters. See
you on
February
3. Watch
this site.
Back on November
1, Igor Fruman had three
requests denied, to loosen
bond restrictions and have his
brother Steve as a bond
co-signer, all denied on
November 1 by
Judge
Oetken.
Periscope here.
Back on October
23 Lev Parnas' lawyer raised
the issue of executive
privilege and the need for a
US Department of Justice taint
team when his client, along
with Igor Fruman, were
arraigned and both pleaded not
guilty.
Inner City
Press thread here.
Judge Oetken
inquired into
whether Parnas
worked for
President
Trump - his
lawyer said no
- then put off
the issues,
and the
setting of a
trial date,
until December
2 at 2 pm.
Parnas will be
under home
detention with
GPS monitoring
in the
Southern
District of
Florida, with
no contact
with
co-defendants
outside the
presence of
counsel.
That's a
condition
co-defendent
David
Correia's
lawyer said he
intended to
revisit,
telling Inner
City Press it
was because of
business
relationships,
see below.
Here's
some of how it
went on
October 23:
Judge
Oetken's
deputy tells
the lawyers,
The room is
cavernous,
please speak
up. Now Judge
Oekten says,
we're hear for
arraignment on
a four count
indictment.
Asks for time
of arrest and
about
presentment
AUSA:
Parnas will be
released on a
$1 million
bond.
Pre-trial
supervision
out of
Southern
District of
Florida. Home
detention with
GPS
monitoring; DC
for legal
visits.
Surrender
passport, no
contact with
co-defendants
outside
presence of
counsel
(Correia
disputes)
AUSA:
Igor Fruman
putting up a
condo. Judge
Oetken
approves the
bail
conditions;
now proceeding
to the
arraignment,
Parnas first.
He waives
public reading
of the
indictment.
Pleads Not
Guilty.
Now
Fruman pleads
not guilt.
Judge Oetken
asks AUSA to
describe the
discover in
the
case.
AUSA: multiple
search
warrants, 50
bank accounts,
"the
investigation
is ongoing."
AUSA:
By the Dec 2,
2 pm
pre-trial
conference US
will know
more. Judge
Oetken: Given
the volume of
discovery, not
setting a
trial date
yet. Might set
it on Dec 2.
Parnas' lawyer
will be out of
the country on
that day, he
says.
Parnas'
lawyer says
there should
be DOJ
taint team,
says that
there are
excutive
privilege
issues...
"hese are
issues we need
to be very
sensitive"
with, he
says.
Judge
Oetken: When
you say
executive
privilege,
you're not
suggesting
your client
worked for the
President, are
you? Parnas'
lawyer: No, my
client worked
with Mr.
Giuliani.
Parnas'
lawyer: If
information
gets out then
we determine
it is all
privileged,
we've got a
problem. AUSA:
This is the
first that
we've heard of
this... With
respect with
executive
privilege,
we're happy to
have a
conversation.
Judge
Oetken to
Parnas'
lawyer: if
there's a
particular
application
that you want
to make, I'm
all ears. Are
you going to
reach a
protective
order? AUSA:
We are working
on it. Judge
Oetken:
Anything else?
Only exclusion
of time under
the Speed
Trial Act. To
Dec 2
Judge
Oetken: Okay,
I'll see you
all on
December 2 at
2 pm. Inner
City Press
said it would
be there- and
it was. The
case is US
v. Parnas, et
al.,
19-cr-00725
(Oetken).
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