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Honduras Trial Ardon Describes
Chapo $1M In Plastic To Tony
Hernandez For Brother JOH
By Matthew
Russell Lee,
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SDNY COURTHOUSE,
Oct 7 – The
prosecution of
the brother of
Honduras'
president for
guns and drug
running began
with a bang on
October 2 with
the charge
that already
life
imprisoned El
Chapo Guzman
gave the
defendant $1
million for
this brother,
the president.
On October 7,
sworn witness
Alex Ardon
described the
meeting, with
both El Chapo
and Tony
Hernandez
present and
the cash in
plastic bags,
see thread and
see below.
The
trial is
before U.S.
District Court
for the
Southern
District of
New York Judge
P. Kevin
Castel and
Inner City
Press is live
tweeting
it. See also
Patreon here
on the fast
mention and
shut-down of
Nikki Haley's
name.
On October 7
Alex Ardon
took the
stand,
estimating how
much cocaine
he trafficked
into the
United States
and describing
the meeting
with El Chapo
and Tony
Hernandez.
Here's some of
how it went,
from Inner
City Press'
live tweets:
With
re-direct [of
Dario Euraque,
see thread]
over, the next
US witness is
Alex Ardon.
AUSA: Have you
participated
in torture?
Ardon: Yes.
AUSA: Do you
know Tony
Hernandez? Can
you identify
him? Ardon:
Yes, and yes
(pointed at
defense
table). Inner
City Press
@innercitypress
· 1h AUSA:
During what
years did Tony
Hernandez help
you and your
family
distribute
cocaine?
Ardon: 2010,
2011, 2012,
2013...
AUSA:
Did Tony
Hernandez tell
you about his
stamp on
cocaine?
Ardon: Yes. He
told me a
shipment was
coming in with
his stamp T.H.
on it.
AUSA: Did you
ever see Tony
Hernandez
armed? Ardon:
All the time
Did
Tony Hernandez
talk to you
about other
guns?
Ardon: Yes, an
M-60. It is a
big gun.
Breaking:
AUSA asked
Ardon, did you
meet El Chapo
Guzman? Ardon:
Yes, in 2013
in El Paraiso.
AUSA: Was Tony
Hernandez
there? Ardon:
Yes. AUSA:
Were payments
made? Ardon:
Yes.
Ardon:
El Chapo
Guzman said to
Tony
Hernandez, I
am going to
give $1
million for
your brother
Juan Orlando
Hernandez.
AUSA: Did you
see the money?
Ardon: Yes. It
was brought in
from the car
in plastic
bags. We
counted it.
AUSA:
Does
Government
Exhibit 314
fairly and
accurately
describe the
weapon you
just described
as a bazooka?
Ardon:
Yes.
AUSA: How
cocaine did
you move into
the US? Ardon:
I don't
understand the
question.
AUSA:
How cocaine
did you and
your family
move into the
US? Ardon:
Around some
250 tons.
AUSA: Did your
relatives
participate?
Ardon: Hugo
Ardon, Lionel
Leiva... AUSA:
What about
brothers in
law? Ardon:
Yes... one was
at the meeting
with El Chapo.
AUSA:
What did your
cocaine stamp
look
like?
Alex Ardon: "A
double A."
AUSA:
Did Tony
Hernandez tell
you what he
was using his
lab for in
Lempira?
Ardon: Yes, he
told me it was
to rebuild
kilos, like if
they got wet.
AUSA:
What type of
drug
trafficking
activities did
Blanco do with
you? Ardon: I
would buy from
him.. He would
provide me
security... We
started
working
together in
2004. AUSA:
When did you
stop? Ardon:
When Blanco
was arrested.
AUSA:
What
departments of
Honduras did
Blanco do most
of this
business
in? With
that, Judge
Castel
declares the
lunch break,
telling the
jurors not to
discuss the
case.
On
the afternoon
of October 4
Tony
Hernandez'
lawyer Omar
Malone
questioned
cooperating
witness Victor
Hugo Diaz
Morales about
shooting his
wife in the
face, and
where all of
his drug
profits were
hidden (farms
and houses, it
seems). More
on Patreon here. Here
are two
exhibits, and
here's how
some of it
went: "Tony
Hernandez'
lawyer Omar
Malone is
asking the
cooperating
witness how
and when he
got his deal.
AUSA Houle
objects,
referring to
privileged
information.
Malone:
Do you recall
signing a
document that
you would not
falsely
incriminate
anyone?
Witness
(pause) Please
repeat the
question.
Malone: You
knew you were
supposed to
tell the truth
during that
meeting.
Witness: The
document was
in English.
Malone:
Do you
remember an
interpreter
translating it
for you into
Spanish?
Witness: I
don't
remember.
Malone: Did
Tony Hernandez
come up in
that meeting?
Witness: I
don't remember
the topics
that came up.
Malone:
I started out
by asking you
about being
truthful-
Judge Castel:
Just ask the
question.
Malone: Would
an honest man
lie? Witness:
I already told
you, I was
afraid.
Malone: You
never had any
problem
exacting
punishment on
people in your
history,
right?
Malone:
Are you
telling this
jury that
despite your
history you
were afraid of
this gentleman
(gestures at
Tony
Hernandez) and
that is why
you lied to
prosecutors?
Witness: I
cannot suggest
anything to
the jury.
Malone:
When you were
arrested you
had a cell
phone, right?
Witness: Yes.
Malone: They
downloaded the
information
from your
phone, right?
Witness:
Yes.
Malone: Did
you use
WhatsApp?
Witness: No.
Malone: So
only phone and
text and in
person?
Witness: Yes
Malone:
And the only
way you can
get that 40
year sentence
reduced is if
the
prosecutors
file something
with the court
that Mr. Diaz
Morales has
been
cooperative,
right?
Witness: It
will also have
full detail of
all my crimes.
Malone:
You know you
have to please
the
prosecutors
with your
cooperation in
order to get
that reduction
request?
Witness: That
is not
correct.
Malone: Is it
fair to say
you don't want
to spend 40
years in
prison in the
US? Witness:
That's right.
Malone:
Other than the
ledgers and a
cell phone,
did you turn
over any other
evidence to
the
prosecution?
Witness:
Repeat me the
question.
Malone
(specifies
cell phone was
turned over to
DEA by Diaz
Morales'
lawyer in
Guatelama)
Witness: I do
not remember
that. Inner
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@innercitypress
· 2h Malone:
Did you turn
over millions
of dollars?
Witness: No.
Malone: Where
is the money?
Witness:
Please repeat
the question.
Malone: Can I
have the court
reporter
repeat that?
Witness: Part
in property,
and part is
owned to me.
Malone:
As a drug
dealer, you
did not have a
bank account,
right?
Witness:
That's right,
I don't have
one. Malone:
What kind of
property?
Witness: A few
houses and a
few ranches
[fincas].
Malone: How
many fincas?
Witness: More
than
two.
Malone:
Do you have a
farm in
Honduras?
Witness: Yes.
Malone: And
houses in
Honduras?
Witness: It is
my daughter's
house. Malone:
Does she live
there?
Witness: No.
The house is
under
investigation.
The ranch too.
Malone:
What did you
do with your
drug money?
Diaz Morales:
I don't
understand the
question.
Malone: What
did you do
with the
money? AUSA
Houle:
Objection -
asked and
answered.
Malone: But he
didn't answer.
Malone:
Those five
house and two
fincas, they
didn't cost
the $72
million you
made
trafficking
drugs.
Diaz Morales:
In that period
of time there
were also
expenses.
Malone
gets Diaz
Morales to
admit he had
someone killed
- than asks
him,
skepticism
dripping: "But
you're afraid
of Tony
Hernandez?"
"Yes."
Now
re-direct of
Diaz Morales
by AUSA Houle,
to
rehabilitate
him it seems:
"Did some of
your expenses
include bribes
you paid to
police and
political
campaigns?"
AUSA
Houle: "After
you had Carlos
Toledo
murdered, the
defendant
continued to
work with you
on drug
trafficking?"
Diaz Morales:
Yes. AUSA
Houle: Were
you charged
with it before
you arrived in
the US? Diaz
Morales: No.
AUSA
Houle: So
Exhibit 701 is
your
cooperation
agreement,
listing all
the murders
you admitted
to. Will your
sentencing
judge be aware
of all those
murders? Diaz
Morales: Yes.
Houle: Has
anyone made
you any
promises what
sentence you
will get? Diaz
Morales: No.
Judge
Castel tells
the jurors,
"Our work week
is finished.
Put the case
out of your
mind. Some of
you will be
watching the
Yankees
playoff game."
On the morning
of October 4
Assistant US
Attorney
Amanda Houle
questioned a
cooperating
witness who
along with
describing
bribes to the
Hernandez
brothers
admitted
flatly that he
shot his wife
in the face.
Tony
Hernandez'
lawyer Omar
Malone being
his cross
examination
with just that
point. But a
5K1
cooperator's
letter seems
in the offing.
Here's how it
went: "Judge
Castel joked
with the jury
about the New
York Mets, who
fired their
manager
yesterday, and
now the
questioning
about police
and Prez'
brother Tony
Hernandez
continues
AUSA: Did
there come a
time when
Lozano told
you he was
going to be
transferred?
Witness: Yes.
To
Tegucigalpa. I
asked Tony
Hernandez to
help get him
transferred
there, it was
a more
important
location in
terms of
cocaine
trafficking
AUSA:
Did you speak
directly to
the defendant
about the
transfer?
Witness: Yes.
In 2007, I
paid him
$5,000. AUSA:
Did you have
any
discussions
with the
defendant
about the
payment.
Witness: Yes,
he confirmed
to me he had
received the
payment.
Witness:
The defendant
Tony Hernandez
said he had
made the
transfer
happen by
using his
contacts in
the
Tegucigalpa
national
police
headquarters.
AUSA: Is that
that only time
the defendant
helped you
with police
transfers?
Witness: No.
Also Flores
Santos.
[Flores
Santos' photo
is entered
into evidence
as Government
Exhibit 109 -
as of last
night, none of
the exhibits
available
online to the
Press yet -
have
requested.]
AUSA: Why did
you want him
stationed
there?
Witness: It
was the
principle
route to
Guatemala.
Turns out Tony
Hernandez was
not the only
one to put his
initials on
kilos of
cocaine -
Ruben Mejia
did too: RM,
the witness
tells
jury.
Witness: Ruben
Mejia was the
owner of a car
dealership and
a butcher shop
too.
Witness:
So we met with
Tony Hernandez
to talk about
how we could
get small
planes from
Colombia to be
able to land
at clandestine
airstrips on
Honduras to
traffic
cocaine. Tony
H told us the
DEA was
training
Honduran
helicopter
pilots on
night vision
Witness:
the drugs were
manufactured
in a lab near
the border of
Colombia and
Venezuela
owned by Tony
H... AUSA:
What security
was used to
transport it?
Witness: My
workers
escorted it to
Guatemala.
AUSA: Did they
carry guns?
Witness:
Pistols and
assault rifles
AUSA:
How much did
you pay per
kilo of
cocaine?
Witness:
$10,000. AUSA:
Did you make
any other
payments to
Tony Hernandez
for this?
Witness: Yes.
$5,000 for
police
checkpoints.
And more for
radar. AUSA:
What was the
destination?
Witness: the
United States
AUSA:
What did Cinco
say about what
percentage of
that payment
should be made
in $100 bills?
Witness: He
said $1.5
million should
be in hundred
dollars bills.
AUSA: Did you
meet with
Fernando Chang
about this
shipment?
Witness: In
San Pedro Sula
in my house
there
AUSA:
In 2009, did
you make any
payments to
any campaigns?
Witness: Yes -
to the
National Party
campaign for
Lobo as
president and
Juan Orlando
Hernandez'
re-election as
Congressman. I
have $100,000,
from drug
profits to
which I am
devoted
AUSA:
Did you
discuss that
payment with
the
defendant?
Witness: Yes.
He said if
Pepe Lobo was
elected and
Juan Orlando
Hernandez was
re-elected to
Congress we'd
have more
connection and
access to
information
from the
police and
army
Judge
Castel orders
silence in the
back of the
courtroom, and
declares a
break. This
thread will
continue
Okay,
we're back.
AUSA Amanda L.
Houle is
asking witness
about his
birthday party
in 2010: "Did
any other drug
traffickers
attend this
party? How
many?"
Witness: About
10. AUSA:
Who's shown in
that photo?
Witness:
Bonilla. AUSA:
Government
offers Exhibit
104.
AUSA
Houle: What
did Tony
Hernandez say
about
Bonilla?
Witness: That
Police Officer
Bonilla was a
man of great
trust to Tony
and Juan
Orlando
Hernandez, a
man who was
very violent
and could
commit
murders.
AUSA:
Did the topic
of extradition
come up?
Witness: Yes.
Tony Hernandez
said that even
if the US
Embassy asked
for it, it
could be
slowed down or
stopped in the
Honduran
Supreme Court
Inner City
Press
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· 3h Witness:
By then, Juan
Orlando
Hernandez was
running for
president of
the Congress.
Tony H told me
he was working
on bribes with
Javier and
Lionel Rivera,
and with the
mayor of El
Paraiso...
Inner City Press
will continue to cover this
and other SDNY and 2nd Circuit
cases - watch this site, and there is
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