In Sprint Trial Legere of T-Mobile
Shows Himself As Marrero Cites Flower
Children
By Matthew
Russell Lee, Patreon
SDNY COURTHOUSE,
Dec 13 – After more states
lining up against the proposed
T-Mobile / Sprint merger, on
which a two week trial to
begin December 9 before U.S.
District Court
for the
Southern
District of
New York Judge
Victor
Marrero. Inner
City Press
began what
will be a
trial-long
live-tweet, here.
Day II morning
here.
More on
Patreon here.
Day III here.
More D3 on
Patreon here.
Day IV here.
More D4 on
Patreon here.
Day V here.
More on D5 on
Patreon here.
On December
13, T-Mobile's
John Legere
was
cross-examined
and let it all
hang out, see
below. It
culminated in
Judge Victor
Marrero asking
him if he
could remain a
flower child
or would
instead, post
merger, join
the boys'
club. Legere
said never -
but his
successor Mike
Sievert then
looked very
much the boys'
club member.
How will it
cut with
Marrero?
Here's some
of how it went
(more on
Patreon here)
Q:
This is a
transcript of
the earnings
call in
February 2018,
do you see
that?
Legere:
Yes I do.
Q:
You said,
"Nobody is
interest in
the wi-fi
phone...
Charter will
be irrelevance
squared." You
said that?
Legere:
Among other
things.
Q:
You know Mr.
Mack, he's the
one you took
your
deposition.
Legere:
And I'm still
afraid of him.
Q:
If you could
look at
Exhibit 1105.
And please, do
not put this
up on the
screen. [Why
not?] It's an
email from you
to Mr.
Huttges?
Legere:
Correct.
Legere:
We were in
contact with
Washington and
I would
summarize it
to Deutsche
Telekom. Q:
You're aware
some companies
told the FCC
they were
opposed to the
merger,
including
DISH? Legere:
That is
correct.
Q:
And T-Mobile
responded, see
Exhibit 1177 -
oh, it's not
in your
binder. Here
is a hard
copy. The
letter
T-Mobile's
lawyers and
DLA Piper sent
to the FCC
responding to
DISH. Legere:
Correct.
Q:
And T-Mobile
said DISH
failed to meet
FCC deadlines,
games the
regulatory
system.
Legere: And
the FCC took
it into
account in
this DISH
remedy. Q: But
this reflects
what T-Mobile
thought of
DISH.
Objection!
[state of
corporate
mind] Judge
Marrero:
Overruled
Q:
Nothing in
your
commitment to
FCC precludes
you from
changing
prices on
devices,
correct?
Legere: Yes,
we could lower
them. Q: But
you could
raise them
too! It's not
covered by the
agreement.
Legere: The
agreement
wasn't
intended to
cover it.
Q:
The quality of
T-Mobile isn't
consistent
across the
country, lower
in some
places, right?
Legere: Yes.
But we're
working on
that. Q: And
your spectrum
assets vary by
market?
Legere: I
would assume
that's true.
Q:
T-Mobile is a
public
company,
correct?
Legere: And a
very
successful
one. Q: And
you make
public
presentations?
Legere: Very
entertaining
ones. Q: And
you criticize
Sprint?
Legere: Less
and less. Q:
Here's your
email to
Huttges, about
a UBS
conference.
You state, We
will be
dismissing the
price war
rhetoric,
calling what
we used to do
to Sprint just
pokes. Legere:
Analysts fear
price wars. We
didn't want
analysts
believe there
was one in the
US market
Q:
So the share
price was
down. Legere:
I've headed
public
companies for
20 years. I
check every
morning at
9:30. If it's
down, I ask,
What're you
hearing about
there. In case
shareholders
ask questions.
Q: You said, I
think it's the
Sprint deal,
not Kevin's
note.
Legere:
I'm not sure I
was referring
to stock price
as down. And I
wasn't at the
UBS
conference, 3
of my people
were. Q: Let's
go to 980,
page 3. From
Clint
Paterson, he
forwards you a
proposed
release about
a MetroPCS
offer, letting
T-Mobile
customers
switch over
Q:
You said you
didn't want to
be on the
press release.
Legere: We owe
MetroPCS, but
when you put
me on it, you
use the
magenta brand.
We're very
careful about
that. Q: This
is from Mr.
Carey. Who is
he? Legere:
He's in the
back of the
room, looks
like me, EVP.
Q:
Mr. Carey was
writing to you
after reading
a DOJ
submission to
the FCC, how
to get further
consolidation?
Legere: He was
advising me
for an
interview with
the WSJ.
Q:
He says, all
of this can be
achieved by
further
consolidation
below the top
tier. Legere:
He wrote that
he was
thinking out
loud. Q: You
said you are
making
AT&T
irrelevant.
Legere: 50% of
the customers
I've won are
from them.
Carey said
irrelevant,
not me
Q:
So here's your
email where,
after being
told Sprint
had made
inroad in
markets like
Denver and
SLC, you
replied,
"Let's hit
them hard." Do
you remember
that? Legere:
Yes.
Q:
You said, I'm
losing
patience with
Communications.
Legere: I'm
sure my
personal
communication
was even
stronger...
None of
Sprint's
promotional
offers have
been
sustainable.
Q:
Here's your
email about
Altice-
Legere: I was
in Tokyo,
talks with
Sprint broke
off Legere: It
became clear
to us that
Altice was
playing us off
against each
other. Q: It's
clear Sprint
has not been
an irrelevant
competitor to
T-Mobile.
Legere: We've
been seeing
2015, let's
look more
recently. Q:
Sprint has
customers.
Legere: Less
that
yesterday.
Q:
To millions of
customers,
Sprint is not
an irrelevant
competitor,
correct?
Legere:
Competition in
wireless is
very fierce.
Pomerantz: No
further
questions. Now
re-direct: I
have just a
few questions
about what Mr.
Pomerantz
asked.
Q:
I wanted to
give you a
change to more
fully explain
Legere: That's
for that. For
me there's two
important
things here.
Nothing about
this deal has
anything to do
with four to
three, the
exact
opposite. We
were in the
early phase of
turning around
T-Mobile USA
Legere:
I had to go to
my board
controlled by
Deutsche
Telekom and
get funding,
if they
thought market
was declining
in value, it
would be
difficult. I
had a think
tank on my
board being
guided by
outside
consultants.
Legere:
I'm a highly
outspoken CEO.
Sometimes they
bigger they
are, the more
I enjoy taking
them on. It
was like the
horde was
coming and you
were supposed
to fear it.
The cable
company that
you hate is
buying your
wireless
company -
great. It was
a yawn.
Legere:
...We've been
hearing your
yapping for so
long about
coming in. The
customers they
took were
mostly from
Verizon,
mostly by
making it look
like they were
Verizon.
Comcast and
Charter, they
are growing in
the wireless
industry.
Q:
Do you see any
other option
for T-Mobile
acquiring
spectrum for
5G revolution?
Legere: There
are no
existing
alternatives,
with
self-funding
through
synergies. For
Sprint there
no alternative
on the low
band spectrum
that they
have. No
further
questions
Judge
Marrero to
question
John Legere .
Judge Marrero:
Some say
Sprint today
is what
T-Mobile was
in 2012. If
T-Mobile was
able to
achieve this,
why not
Sprint,
without
merger?
Legere: Thank
you your
Honor.
T-Mobile's
situation was
nothing
compared to
Sprint
today
Legere: It's
my opinion
that except
for this
transaction,
Sprint would
be sold in
part. I think
they're in big
trouble. Your
Honor, if
you'll indulge
me, it this
doesn't take
place, Sprint
will go away
and there
won't be a new
DISH
Legere:
The
environment of
a new T-Mobile
and a new
DISH, that's
best.
Judge
Marrero: We
see stories,
about
flower-children
in the 1960,
now you find
them as
investment
bankers. The
relevance is
the idea that
if T-Mobile
gets this, it
will become
one of the
boys
Legere:
That's not a
club I'm
joining.
I'm probably
the person
most hated by
those two. And
I think they
compete, with
the cable
companies
breathing down
their neck.
The brand of
this company
is rooted in
being that
maverick, the
un carrier.
That's
it for Judge
Marrero's
questions to
John Legere
...
Back
from a largely
empty 40 Foley
Square due to
ongoing
elevator outage
to find
T-Mobile
COO-soon-CEO
bragging about
how many
stores they
could close if
the merger
goes forward
As
Week 1
of T-Mobile
- Sprint
trial ends
with a
whimper, Judge
Marrero asks
who's up next.
On Monday
afternoon, a
witness from
DISH - and
they say they
want to close
the courtroom.
Really? (more
on Patreon here)
On
December 12
Legere first
took the
stand. He was
wearing a
black jacket
and a magenta
tie; he'd had
to wait while
a Comcast
witness
testified.
Here's some
of how it went
Outside
overflow
courtroom 15B,
full of a
corporate
lawyers, they
put out a
lunch spread
not seen
before in SDNY
hallways.
Money talks.
But what about
the merger?
The docket
does not say
much. Other
than an order
allowing the
lawyers to
bring into
court their
laptops, the
last letter
was filed
entirely under
seal,
here.
Inner City
Press will
have more on
this, and on
the CEO
witnesses when
they appear.
More on
Patreon here.
Back
on December a
final
pre-trial
conference was
held.
Inner
City Press was
there, and
will cover the
trial. On
December 6 the
plaintiff
states' lawyer
Glenn D.
Pomerantz
dominated the
conference,
going through
each of the
four points in
his letter to
Judge Merrero
and more.
T-Mobile or
Deutsche
Telekom's
lawyer David
I. Gelfan of
Cleary
Gottlieb
wanted more
than 50% of
the time
alloted. Judge
Marrero shot
that down,
saying that to
him equitable
means cut in
half. Judge
Marrero
largely tried
to avoid the
disputes,
urging the
lawyers to
settle their
conflicts and
try their
cases.
Where
Judge Marrero
drew the line
was on timing
and exhibits.
He still aims
at a two week
bench trial,
saying he's
willing to go
to six pm to
accomplish
that. He urged
exhibits to be
agreed in
advance. He
said one of
the questions
will be
DISH.
There will be
a Comcast
witness. Inner
City Press
will cover the
trial. The
case is State
of New York,
et al., v.
Deutsche
Telekom AG, et
al.,
19-cv-5434
(Marrero).
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