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Vault 7 Trial Schulte Calls CIA Witness
Dave Who Remotely Accessed His Computer,
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SDNY COURTHOUSE,
July 7 – When jury selection
was completed for the retrial
of accused CIA Vault 7 leaker
Joshua Schulte, U.S. District
Court for the Southern
District of New York Judge
Jesse M. Furman told the
jurors, Do not read or say
anything about the case. Inner
City Press was there, and live
tweeted here.
Judge Furman: I'm
going to announce the selected
jurors. [He reads out 16
names. Inner City Press took
fast notes - on on Patreon here]
Inner City
Press has filed opposing
the sealing of
the courtroom
for CIA
witnesses, and
once the
witnesses
begin
anticipates
making other
filings.
The June 14, 2022
opening arguments, as live
tweeted by Inner City Press,
are here.
On June 15,
Schulte in his own defense
engaged in his first cross
examination, of FBI Agent
Evanchec. Inner City Press
live tweeted it here.
On June 16,
Schulte completed his cross of
Evanchec - then the US put on
CIA supervisor Anthony Leonis
in a (mostly) sealed
courtroom, Inner City Press
which seeks to unseal was
there then live tweeted here.
On June 17,
Leonis finished his direct and
was cross examined by Schulte,
with a deadline to finish
before the end of the trial
day. Inner City Press live
tweeted it here.
On June 21,
MITRE's (and now Microsoft's)
Patrick Leedom did direct and
then some cross examination by
Schulte. Inner City Press live
tweeted here.
On June 24 the
trial resumed and Inner City
Press live tweeted here.
On June 27, FBI
agent Michael Berger was cross
examined, thread here.
On June 28, Day
8, the courtroom went sealed
again, and without at least
one of the feeds that was
supposed to exist. Inside,
"Jeremy Weber" was being
cross-examined by Schulte. At
day's end Schulte told Judge
Furman he has ten more pages
of questions for Weber, after
finishing with 50 pages.
The next witness, too, is
sealed. But Inner City Press
is staying on the case, and
the background (see a launch
of sorts, here).
On June 29,
Schulte cross examined Weber
at the opening, and waited for
cooperator Carlos, about use
of cell phone(s) in MCC, at
the end. Inner City Press live
tweeted, here.
On June 30,
Schulte cross examined
Betances, then FBI Special
Agent Schlessinger, thread here
On July 6, both
sides rested after questions,
which Inner City Press live
tweeted here;
Inner
City Press is
covering the
trial(s) and
writing a book(let)
about it
US v. Josh
Schulte CIA #Wikileaks trial
Day 11, FBI Agent Schlessinger
being cross examined by
Schulte.
Schulte: Good
morning. Each of the notebooks
you went through was
80-sheets, right? FBI
Schlessinger: I think so. I
don't recall.
Schulte: Let's
pull up Exhibit 806. This is
160 total pages, right?
Schlessinger: Yes.
Schulte: But the
US choose only 2 pages, right?
AUSA: Objection! Judge Furman:
Sustained.
Schulte: And none
of these pages were
transmitted, right? Judge
Furman: I think this has been
asked and answered.
Schulte: You said
my parents home wasn't raided,
right? Schlessinger: Yes, I
said that.
Schulte: But
isn't it true that FBI agents
visited my parents' home in
Lubbock [Texas]? Schlessinger:
It was not a raid. Schulte:
But wasn't it unannounced?
FBI Agent
Schlessinger: We were trying
to get some classified info
back, from your pro se
application. [Note: Yesterday
Inner City Press filed to
unseal entirely withheld
filings in Schulte's civil
case - story later] Schulte:
They confiscated computers,
right?
Schulte:
Did you interview Michael? FBI
Schlessinger: I was involved
in one interview. Schulte: It
says, CIA employee Michael was
OK-ed for travel to Thailand.
Did you ask for him to be
placed on administrative
leave? AUSA: Objection! Judge:
Sustained.
Schulte:
Michael was an employee of OSB
at the CIA when I was, right?
FBI Schlesinger: I believe so.
Schulte: No further questions.
Judge: Re-direct?
AUSA: Very briefly. Where
there classification reviews
of documents other than on
WordPress? Schlessinger: Yes.
AUSA: How about this email -
was it classified? FBI
Schlessinger: Yes. AUSA: Ms.
Cooper, please go to [Exhibit]
801, page 3. Schulte:
Objection. Beyond the scope
and he has no personal
knowledge. Judge: Overruled.
Schlessinger: It was
determined to be classified.
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AUSA: No further
questions. Judge Furman: Mr.
Schulte? Schulte: Do you know
if the notebooks found in my
cell at MCC were ever shared
with anyone? Schlessinger: No.
Schulte: No further questions.
Judge: The witness may step
down.
AUSA: With
two experts reports in, the
government rests. Judge
Furman: Jurors, Mr. Schulte
bears no burden at all. I need
to discuss legal issues, so
I'll send you to the jury
room. [Jury leaves] Schulte: I
move to dismiss under Rule 29,
especially on espionage
Judge
Furman: Can you see more?
Please distinguish between the
Wikileaks counts and the MCC
counts. Schulte: At the first
trial I was specifically
charged under the documents
language... Now they have
changed, to try to make it
easier. Judge: It refers
to... note
Judge
Furman: So you're arguing that
an electronic documents is not
a document - and that an eBook
[!] is not a book. I will
reserved judgment but I am
expressing my skepticism.
Submit something, but your
time is running short.
Schulte: The statute is from
1945
Schulte:
Look at the legislative
history. Judge Furman:
Any other issues under Rule
29, bracketing Count 9?
Schulte: The Computer Fraud
and Abuse Act, the US is
alleging violations based on
increasing unauthorized
access. But I had a root
server key.
AUSA: He received
a memo. He no longer had
authorization. Judge Furman: I
agree. Rule 29 motion on that
is denied. Now read my order
about Count 9. Has stand-by
counsel spoken to any
potential witnesses? This
would be the time.
Judge
Furman: This would be the time
to talk about the proposed
testimony of Ms. Slotnik.
Schulte: It would show there
was no intent to release
without getting advice from
counsel. And requesting advice
does not waive privilege as to
any advice given
Judge
Furman: If it's labeled
"attorney client privilege," I
believe he can argue that he
had no intent to release this
information, under the attempt
clause on Count 4. You can
argue that he drafted tweets
and set up a Twitter account
so he had the intent.
Judge
Furman: I think having Ms.
Slotnik testify he drafted it
for her is akin to marking it
attorney client privilege. Am
I missing something? AUSA:
That he did something innocent
with the document doesn't show
what his other intent was. So
it's not relevant
Schulte: It may
not be determinative but it is
relevant. The only thing about
Malware in the notebook is
about re-writing. For six
months after I gave them to
Ms. Slotnik there was not
transmission.
Judge Furman: I
deny the motion to preclude.
Judge Furman: Remember, Mr.
Schulte, you can not try to
use the advice of counsel
defense. [Note: "fancier" / at
liberty defendant Trevor
Milton of Nikola is still
mulling an advice of counsel
defense for September
trial Inner City Press
will also cover]
Schulte: I will
call witness(es) and rest
today. Judge Furman: So you
are not testifying yourself?
Schulte: I am not.
[After a
break in trial] Schulte: I'm
going to call Ms. Slotnick,
then CIA witnesses Chang and
David. Judge Furman: Those
last two are sealed witnesses
under my order. [That
Inner City Press opposed]
Now in
semi-sealed courtroom as pool
reporter under Order won, for
CIA witnesses "Cheng" and
"David."
Schulte:
The defense calls Cheng. Where
did you work from 2016 to
2018? Cheng: In CIA's CCI. As
a contractor. Schulte: Did you
work at the NSA during the
Snowden leak? Cheng: Yes.
Schulte: Were NSA policies
stronger than DEVLAN? Cheng:
Yes.
Cheng: I
was surprised security on
DEVLAN was not heightened. It
was trust based. I heard, Wild
Wild West Inner City Press
@innercitypress · 1h Schulte:
No further questions. AUSA:
You used Atlassian, right?
Cheng: Yes.
AUSA: But you
don't know how much security
was on Atlassian, do you?
Cheng: I do not. Next witness:
"Dave" Schulte: How did you
describe DEVLAN? Dave: The
Wild Wild West.
Schulte:
Did you copy Stash into your
home directory? Dave: Yes.
Schulte: DId everyone have
full_control? Dave: Yes.
Schulte:
Did you
copy Stash to an external hard
drive that sat in your desk?
Dave: Yes.
Schulte: Did FBI
find the drive? Dave: I don't
recall.
Schulte:
Did you ever RDP, remote
protocol, my computer? Dave:
Yes. Schulte: No further
questions.
Drum roll...
Schulte: The defense rests.
Judge Furman:
Summations tomorrow.
The closings are
coming and this coverage will
continue.
Here's from
Judge Furman June 13 Order:
"as discussed on the record at
the classified hearing
held on June 8, 2022,
the Court concludes that the
particular statement Defendant
seeks to admit is
admissible. The Court further
concludes that the information
should likely be admitted as
a stipulation, which
would give Defendant
“substantially the same
ability to make his defense
as would disclosure of ”
a portion of the document
itself, pursuant to CIPA
Section 6(c). See 18.
U.S.C. app. 3 § 6(c).
Accordingly, the parties shall
propose an agreed upon
stipulation or competing
stipulations for the Court’s
approval no later than June
17, 2022."
Previously, in
the conclusion of the month
long trial of accused CIA
leaker Joshua Schulte, on the
morning of March 9, 2020 the
jury returned guilty verdicts
on Counts 8 and 10, with
mistrial granted on all other
counts. U.S. District Court
for the Southern District of
New York Judge Paul A. Crotty
set March 26 for the next
date.
Then it was moved
to April 22 (then May 18).
March 9 thread here.
Song here.
On
November 9, 2021, a status
conference was held before
Judge Jesse M. Furman to whom
the case was reassigned. Inner
City Press live tweeted it here
- the upshot was a May 23,
2022 trial date was set. Vlog
here.
That has
since been moved to June, with
the admonition that it will
not be further moved. Schulte
has raised issues of how his
right to represent himself is
possible with law library,
turned off computers and
printer paper issues in the
MDC.
This was
was one of the issues at a May
18 pre-trial conference held
on Courtroom 15A of 500 Pearl
Street, where Judge Furman has
been overseeing a drug trial
Inner City Press is also
covering, along with other
criminal
and civil
trials.
It stepped out - then found
that a window had been opened
to oppose courtroom sealing.
It wrote in to Judge Furman,
see below and The New Yorker
of June 16: "Matthew Russell
Lee, an independent journalist
who covered the first trial,
recently filed an objection to
the government’s motion to
seal the courtroom during
testimony from C.I.A.
officers, but it appears that
that condition will again
apply."
On June 8 there
was a final pre-trial
conference, also in courtroom
15A; Inner City Press live
tweeted:
OK- at #CIA
#Vault7 leak case of US v.
Schulte, Inner City Press
which has opposed sealing is
here, with half dozen gov't
reps.
Now US wants to
quash subpoena on a witness.
Judge: I would
like to avoid sidebars... esp
due to Mr Schulte's US
Marshals issue. [He has 2
Marshals sitting behind him]
AUSA: When
we move to sealed witnesses...
Judge: We'll have the jury
leave too, to make no one is
in the courtroom who shouldn't
be. Openings at earliest
Tuesday [and probably later].
Four alternates.
Judge: 10
peremptories for the
defense. 6 for the US.
I'll tell jurors Mr Schulte is
charged with 9 crimes [incl
with] Wikileaks.
Schulte: Stress
that I am presumed innocent.
Judge: I
intend to ask jurors if they
are vaccinated and boosted.
AUSA: We want our
experts and former case agent
in the court during other
witnesses' testimony. Judge:
Experts yes, case agent no.
Judge: Witnesses
cannot read transcripts or
media. A/V dry run, you can do
it when in the courtroom, Mr
Schulte.
Schulte: I'll be
here til 4 on my Friday SCIF
day.
Judge:
We'll take up the rest in our
classified setting. Adjourned.
Then the
prosecutors and Marshals stood
around Schulte as he tried to
charge his laptop. The
continued session would be
elsewhere in the courthouse,
sealed.
Back on
April 13, 2022, Judge Furman
held a conference with Schulte
present. Inner City Press live
tweeted it here....
Previously, Judge
Crotty held another proceeding
with Schulte and his stand-by
counsel. Schulte was moved to
the MDC: "JOSHUA ADAM SCHULTE
Register Number: 79471-054
Age: 33
Race: White
Sex: Male
Located at: Brooklyn MDC
Release Date: UNKNOWN." [And
see its Oct 15 MCC video here]
On March
2, 2021 were the closing
arguments [in the first
trial], which Inner City Press
tweeted, thread here
More on
Patreon here.
See Inner City
Press filing into the docket
on Big Cases Bot, here.
Watch this site. The case is US
v. Schulte, 17-cr-548
(Furman).
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