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Kevin Spacey SDNY
Trial 2d Victim
Cites Joe Papp,
Cut-up Narrative
of Child-victim
Rapp
By Matthew
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SDNY COURTHOUSE,
Oct 6 – Anthony
Rapp's lawsuit
against Kevin
Spacey began
trial on
October 6
before
U.S. District Court for the
Southern District of New York
Judge Lewis A. Kaplan.
Inner City Press attended then
tweeted here.
On the
way in video I,
II; afterward
Space
and Vlog.
Here's
the live tweeted thread
by Inner City
Press of the openings,
here
On
October 7, Day
2, with
a stated
victim of the
Public Theater
of Joe Papp, a
Rapp friend
who was told,
and the
beginning
(direct) of Rapp
himself. Thread here:
Jury
entering!
First witness
is Andrew
Holtzman [yet
another
Holtzman
accuser. He
married his
husband in
2009.]
Rapp's lawyer:
Let me direct
your attention
to 1991. Where
were you
working?
Holtzman:
Joseph Papp's
NY Shakespeare
Festival on
Lafayette
Street.
Rapp's lawyer:
Tell us who
Joseph Papp
is. Judge
Kaplan:
Sustained. Get
to the point.
Rapp's lawyer:
Did you work
in a full
program there?
Holtzman: Yes.
For Mr. Papp's
wife. I told
to know Mr.
Papp when he
came in. I
came to run a
second-change
film office
Rapp's
lawyer:
Describe the
office.
Holtzman:
There were two
desks. Rapp's
lawyer: Did
you encounter
Kevin Spacey?
Holtzman: Yes,
in the office.
I was
finishing up a
phone call. He
was wearing
tight blue
jeans. I saw
that he was
erect - then
on top of me
Holtzman: He
grabbed me by
the crotch -
for leverage -
& I felt
his erection
against my
body. He had
not said
anything. I
was shouting.
After a time
he pulled away
& looked
angry, like it
wasn't suppose
to go this way
Spacey's
lawyer:
Objection.
Judge:
Sustained.
Judge Kaplan:
Everything
after angry is
stricken.
Rapp's lawyer:
What did you
think?
Spacey's
lawyer:
Objection.
Judge:
Sustained.
Rapp's lawyer:
What did you
do next?
Holtzman: I
sat at my
desk. [Judge
Kaplan calls
lawyer for a
whispered
sidebar]
Judge
Kaplan: Cross
examination.
Spacey's
lawyer: You
understand
we're here
about a party
in 1986,
right?
Holtzman: Yes.
Spacey's
lawyer: You
have no first
hand knowledge
of that party,
correct?
Holtzman: No
first hand
knowledge.
Spacey's
lawyer: In
1991 you were
27, right?
Holtzman: Yes.
Spacey's
lawyer: You
had chest
hair?
Holtzman:
Some. Spacey's
lawyer: You
felt
comfortable
with Mr. Papp,
and were open
with him about
your sexual
orientation,
yes? Holtzman:
Yes.
Spacey's
lawyer
Scolnick: Mr.
Papp gave your
outrageous
opportunities,
right?
Holtzman: If I
said that.
Scolnick: You
can't explain
how you knew
it was Kevin
Spacey when he
came into the
office, right?
Holtzman: I
can--
Scolnick: Yes
or no.
Scolnick:
Other people
came in to use
the 2d desk,
yes? Holtzman:
At certain
times of the
year.
Scolnick: Your
deposition,
you could
review it,
yes? Judge
Kaplan: Let's
save time.
Just read from
the
transcript,
then ask the
witness about
it.
Holtzman:
He lifted me
up on the
desk. Judge
Kaplan: How
much did you
weight then?
Holtzman: 120
or 130. Judge:
Thanks. Scolnick:
Did he leap
over your desk
in a single
bound? Rapp's
lawyer:
Objection.
Judge Kaplan:
Sustained,
argumentative,
Superman.
Scolnick:
You screamed
but no one
came in,
right?
Holtzman: We
haven't
discussed
where the
office was. Scolnick:
You didn't see
him again,
correct?
Holtzman: Yes,
thankfully. I
wasn't looking
for him.
Scolnick:
Isn't it true
you were
present at the
film
screenings,
along with Mr.
Fabiano
Espinoso, yes?
Holtzman: I'm
not arguing he
wasn't. Scolnick:
Now there's a
Joe's Pub,
right?
Holtzman:
There wasn't
then.
Scolnick:
That was the
entrance, and
Mr. Spacey sat
there with
Dolores,
right?
Holtzman: I
never saw him.
I'm being
truthful, I'm
under oath.
Dolores was a
wonderful
character. I
never saw
Kevin Spacey
again. Scolnick:
Mr. Spacey was
an assistant
to Mr Papp,
yes?
Holtzman: Not
that I
remember. I
can name two
other names.
Scolnick:
You never told
Mr. Papp about
your Kevin
Spacey story,
right?
Holtzman: I
didn't tell
anyone at the
Public
Theater.
Scolnick:
You told it
for the first
time on
Facebook in
2017, yes?
Holtzman: To
my friends. Scolnick:
And there were
58 responses,
by people who
did not know
the story,
right?
Holtzman: They
were very
compassionate.
Scolnick:
You kept a
journal,
didn't you?
Holtzman: I
couldn't find
them. Scolnick:
I asked you
for a copy of
these alleged
journals,
right?
Holtzman: We
keep a lot of
things over
the years, and
some don't
last.
Scolnick:
Mr. Papp could
have ended Mr.
Spacey's
career, yes?
Holtzman: I
suppose. Scolnick:
Nothing
further.
Judge:
Re-direct.
Rapp's lawyer:
You said you
didn't want to
see the play
Henry IV. Why
not? Scolnick:
Objection!
Judge:
Sustained.
Rapp's lawyer:
You said
retribution,
meaning what?
Holtzman: I
was frightened
and confused,
I thought
Kevin Spacey
might tell Mr.
Papp I'd done
something.
Rapp's lawyer:
Who were the
secretaries to
Mr. Papp?
Holtzman:
Louise, the
guardian to
Mr. Trump, I
mean Papp
Rapp's lawyer:
Had you told
people about
what Spacey
did? Holtzman:
Yes. We'd be
watching the
Oscars and
people would
bring him up.
And if
comfortable
I'd tell the
story. Rapp's
lawyer: Any
doubt it was
Mr. Spacey?
Holtzman:
None. Rapp's
lawyer:
Nothing
further.
After a break,
next witness
is Christopher
Denny. He came
NYC in 1979
with "stars in
his eyes for
music and
theater. His
mother was on
Broadway in
the 50s.
Rapp's lawyer:
How did you
meet Anthony
Rapp? Denny:
He was in an
off-Broadway
play called
Sophistry.
Rapp's lawyer:
Did Anthony
tell you what
happened with
Mr. Spacey?
Denny: Yes. He
told me he
went to a side
room to watch
TV. That
Spacey came in
and got on top
of him...
Cross
examination.
Spacey's
lawyer: Let me
know you your
deposition
testimony.
Denny: Let me
get my glasses
out (sighs).
Spacey's
lawyer
(reading) you
said, a door
or something.
Denny: May I
explain?
Judge: This is
not an essay
question.
Spacey's
lawyer: Did
you read Mr.
Rapp's book,
the part about
abusing his
partner?
Denny:
Somewhat.
Judge: Next
witness.
Rapp's lawyer:
Next is a
video
deposition of
Sean Snow, who
says "picked
up like a
bride"
Q: How
did you meet
Mr. Rapp?
Snow: On the
set of School
Ties, in 1991.
Then I moved
to NYC in
1992. Q:
Did he ever
have an
unhealthy
relationship?
Snow: Yes,
with Joshua
Safron, who is
deeply
insecure. He
was
parsimonious
in his praise
of Anthony
Q: Have
you ever had a
romantic
relationship
with Mr. Rapp?
Snow: No. End
of video. Next
witness...
Anthony Rapp.
Drum roll.
There was an
hour-long
lunch break.
Here's Rapp.
Rapp's lawyer:
Anthony, where
do you live?
Rapp: The East
Village. With
my husband
Ken. Rapp's
lawyer: Where
did you go to
college? Rapp:
To NYU for a
short time.
They didn't
have any
financial aid
left for me.
Rapp's lawyer:
Tell me about
the plays you
were in. Judge
Kaplan: Can we
move this
along to
something more
relevant?
Rapp's lawyer:
May we have a
sidebar?
Judge: No.
Rapp's lawyer:
Tell me about
one play.
Rapp: At 9 I
was an
understudy to
Tiny Tim.
Rapp: I
was looking
for work, I
got a job at
Starbucks -
then I got the
part in Rent.
I was in it
for 2 years.
Rapp's lawyer:
What awards
did Rent win?
Rapp: The
Tony, and the
Pulitzer Prize
posthumously.
Rapp's lawyer:
How about TV?
Rapp: I did
Law &
Order SVU
Rapp: I
was on Star
Trek
Discovery.
We're filming
our fifth
season
now. My
character is
openly gay.
Rapp's lawyer:
What was it
like, to be
cast as the
first openly
gay character
in Star Trek?
Spacey's
lawyer:
Objection,
irrelevant.
Judge Kaplan:
Sustained.
Rapp's lawyer:
Who was a
mentor to you?
Rapp: Ed
Harris. Rapp's
lawyer: How do
you choose
your projects?
Spacey's
lawyer:
Objection,
irrelevant.
Judge Kaplan:
Sustained.
Rapp's lawyer:
Can we have a
sidebar?
Judge:
No.
Rapp's
lawyer: Let's
talk about
your sexual
orientation.
Rapp: Larry
Kramer was a-
Spacey's
lawyer:
Objection,
non-responsive
and
irrelevant.
Judge Kaplan:
It is
stricken.
Rapp's lawyer:
How was
working with
adults? Rapp:
Yul Brenner
told me, "Get
out of my
way!"
Rapp's
lawyer: You
can to NYC to
do Precious
Sons? Rapp:
Yes. Ed Harris
played my
father. It was
a great time.
I was going to
Tower Records,
I was in the
theater
community.
Rapp's lawyer:
You met Kevin
Spacey? Rapp:
At a function.
I knew that he
was in Long
Day's
Journey into Night
Rapp:
I also met
Lilly
Tomlin... I
felt I was
treated like a
peer. Rapp's
lawyer: When
you went
backstage at
Long Day's
Journey into
Night, what
happened?
Rapp: There's
a private
area. Kevin
Spacey
received us.
Rapp: I
congratulated
him as I had
Jack Lemmon,
who'd met us
first. Later
we went out to
dinner with
Kevin Spacey.
Rapp's lawyer:
Then where did
you go? Rapp:
The Limelight
nightclub. I'd
never been
there and I
had no ID.
Kevin Spacey
got me in.
Rapp:
Later he had a
party on the
Upper East
Side. I walked
from 81st to
off of 2nd Ave
in the 60s, a
tall black
glass high
rise.
Upstairs,
Kevin Spacey
was the only
one I
knew. I
went to the
window, and I
saw the
bedroom with
the TV in it,
to the side.
Rapp's
lawyer: Did
you draw the
apartment at
your
deposition?
Rapp: I did...
Rapp's lawyer:
In the
incident,
where was his
torso? Rapp:
On mine. But
not
parallel.
Rapp's lawyer:
What were you
thinking?
Rapp: I was
(pause) I knew
something was
really wrong
Rapp's
lawyer: What
did you think
when he said
Are you sure
you want to
leave?
Spacey's
lawyer:
Objection,
calls for
speculation.
Judge Kaplan:
Overruled.
Rapp: That he
wanted me to
stay. But I
left. Judge
Kaplan: I
promised the
jurors they
could leave at
3:30, so they
can. Mr. Rapp,
step down.
Counsel,
please remain.
And then Judge
Kaplan asks
the defense,
Will you be
making a Rule
50 motion?
Yes.
Judge Kaplan:
I'm not
forecasting my
ruling...
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