At
UN,
As Libyan Resolution Passes With Five Abstentions, Half Answers by
Lebanon & Dabbashi, Rice Chats with Sudan
By
Matthew
Russell Lee
UNITED
NATIONS,
March 17 -- The Libya
resolution passed the UN Security
Council Thursday evening with ten votes in favor and five abstaining:
Russia, China, Brazil, Germany and India.
Russia
said that
its ceasefire proposal had the support of “a number of (Council)
members,” and that its questions on the resolution just adopted
remained unanswered. What are the limits of the use of force? He
said if things go badly, it will be the responsibility of those who
use force.
Brazil's
Permanent
Representative said her country is sensitive to the call of the Arab
League for a no fly zone, but that the resolution in Paragraph 4 went
beyond it.
Germany's
Permanent
Representative Wittig also said that military force carries
risks that have been under estimated.
India
through its
Deputy Permanent Representative criticized the whole resolution,
saying the Council should have waited for the report of Ban Ki-moon's
envoy Al Khatib, and that sanctions may hurt the Libyan people.
After
the vote,
Inner City Press asked Libyan diplomat Ibrahim Dabbashi to respond to
India's statement about the sanctions hurting Libyans. Dabbashi's
response was only that the resolution does not allow foreign
occupation.
Inner
City Press
asked Dabbashi about the possibility at some point of UN
peacekeeping mission. No, Dabbashi that, not that. He said it's the
Libyan people against Gadhafi.
Lebanon's
Permanent
Representative took questions, and Inner City Press asked
him about the critique of some of the abstainers that the resolution
went beyond what the Arab League has asked for. He replied that the
Arab League only spoke about a no fly zone. Exactly.
Susan
Rice took a
few questions then it was “last question.” Since she had said
Gadhafi had lost legitimacy by attacking his own people, Inner City
Press asked, “What about Bahrain... and the crackdowns there?” These
have included attacks on hospitals, blatant violations of international
law. But Susn Rice was gone.
Footnote:
Before
she spoke at the stakeout, Susan Rice was speaking with a
Sudanese diplomat from Khartoum. Inner City Press is seeking the US
read out on the communication, and what the US is going to do,
especially at the UN, about the stand off between SPLM and Khartoum
on the reports of Khartoum aiding the two renegade generals in and
around South Sudan, and on the crackdown on student protesters in
Darfur that even UNAMID reported on earlier today. Watch this site.
* * *
Juppe
Says
“No Question to Have People on Ground in Libya,”
a Draft Online
By
Matthew
Russell
Lee
UNITED
NATIONS,
March
17 -- Hours before the Libya
resolution vote of the
UN Security Council, French foreign minister Alain Juppe arrived to
speak to the media. Inner City Press asked him if the much debated
phrase “excluding an occupation force,” does that mean “there's
no chance of boots on the ground by outside forces?”
Juppe
answered,
“For
us, and for the resolution that has been prepared, it's no
question to have people on the ground in Libya.”
Inner
City
Press
asked, what if a pilot is shot down? But Juppe walked away from the
UN microphone, ending the question and answer session.
The
phrase is
from a (late) March 16 draft of the Libya resolution, labeled
S/2001/142, which Inner City Press has obtained and as a public
service is putting online here.
There are media outlets who wave
documents around on camera, who say they have different versions. We
say: put them online and let's see. Let the public view them. Juppe's
response is public record.
In
the run up to
the six pm scheduled vote, long time Council observers mused back to
Iraq and Bosnia, predicting that even abstaining countries will use
their explanations of vote to show a commonality of purpose. South
Africa is said to have indicated they will vote for. Germany it would
seem, from its foreign minister's statements, would abstain. But how
fast might bombing start? Watch this site.
* * *
At
UN,
Vote
at 6 on Libya Text “Excluding Occupation Force,”
Mentioning Benghazi
By
Matthew
Russell
Lee
UNITED
NATIONS,
March
17 -- On Libya, the UN Security
Council is “firmly”
set to vote on a resolution at 6 pm on Thursday. A Western
spokesman
told the Press that the text to be voted on includes “all necessary
measures.”
Further
reporting
by
Inner City Press indicates that the text to be voted on
specifically mentions Benghazi, and “exclud[es] any occupation
force,” an attempt to prohibit so called “boots on the ground.” But
some are still arguing that with the passage of time, an
intervention force could be construed as not “occupying.”
A Western
spokesperson on Thursday afternoon told Inner City Press that "the text
may change before six pm."
French
Ambassador
Gerard
Araud came out and predicted “one than one” abstention.
But would Russia (dare) veto?
Russian
Ambassador
Vitaly
Churkin had emerged from the Council Wednesday night
complaining about being portrayed as obstructionist when he had made
a proposal for a resolution calling for a ceasefire, under Chapter 7
of the UN Charter.
When
Inner
City
Press on Wednesday night asked Susan Rice why, she said the previous
Council resolution 1970 had already made such a call, which Gadhafi
had ignored. On Thursday morning, Araud made the same critique of
the Russian proposal.
While
some
had
speculated that Araud's announcement Thursday morning that France was
calling for a vote at 6 pm was based on the travel schedule of new
French foreign minister Alain Juppe, who decided on Wednesday to fly
to New York.
But
Araud on
Thursday afternoon said that it was Susan Rice who asked for the 6 pm
timing of the vote. Araud said “we are gentlemen;” when a
reported called Rice a gentle woman, Araud chimed in “and a
charming one.”
Rice
herself
refused
to make any predictions of the 6 pm vote, saying she is
superstitious. She was wearing a green jacket: it is, after all, St.
Patrick's Day. Watch this site.
* * *
On
Libya,
Rice
Explains Rejection of Russian Ceasefire Proposal, Blame
Game On
By
Matthew
Russell
Lee
UNITED
NATIONS,
March
16 -- On Libya, Russia offered a ceasefire resolution
and offered “Chapter Seven” of the UN Charter, Russian Ambassador
Vitaly Churkin told the Press on Wednesday evening when the UN
Security Council meeting ended.
Asked
why other Council members did
not all agree to the ceasefire proposal, Churkin told the Press that
Russia does not describe other countries' positions, and to ask them.
Inner
City
Press
asked US Ambassador Susan Rice to explain opposition to Russia's
ceasefire proposal. She said that there was a need for enforcement
action, and that a call to end violence was already in the Council's
previous Resolution 1970 on Libya.
A
Western
spokesperson emerged and told the Press that since this earlier
Council call for a cessation of violence had no effect, the Russian
ceasefire resolution would have sent the wrong signal.
Asked
if
the US
now supports a no fly zone, Rice said the US is looking at a package
that includes a no fly zone but goes beyond it.
Rice
did
not list
Arab countries which have offered to enforce a no fly zone. Ibrahim
Dabbashi, the diplomat for Libya but not Gadhafi, said there are five
such countries.
Inner City
Press has heard of four: Jordan, Saudi
Arabia, the UAE and Qatar, whose Permanent Representative and
presumptive next President of the UN General Assembly came to visit
the Council consultations on Wednesday, accompanied by a bodyguard.
Accused
of
filibustering,
Churkin denied it, saying this is not the US Senate or
House of Representatives.
Susan
Rice,
when
asked if Churkin was filabustering to give Gadhafi more time
answered, “What do you think?”
To
some the
proceedings have the aura of a blame game. Russia can now argue that
it is not obstructionist, it offered a ceasefire resolution which was
rejected.
The
US can explain
what many saw as its indecisiveness about calling for a no fly zone
by saying that it wants MORE than a no fly zone.
And
if Russia
somehow blocks such a proposal -- the deployment of a veto seems
unlikely -- the US could blame Russia for being obstructionist.
In
the background,
countries like India and even Germany have expressed reservations or
questions about a no fly zone.
For
now, Council
members' experts will convene Thursday at 9 am, the Permanent
Representative at 11 am. But what will happen in the next 13 hours
in Libya? Watch this site.
* * *
As
UN
Council Slows on Libya, Dabbashi Says “10 Hours, Treki in
Cairo"
By
Matthew
Russell
Lee
UNITED
NATIONS,
March
16 -- While the UN Security
Council went through its
five page draft resolutions paragraph by paragraph, Libyan diplomat
Ibrahim Dabbashi came out to talk to the Press. He had prepared
talking about, about Gadhafi using mercenaries “who fought in
Congo, Rwanda, Burundi and Uganda,” from Niger, Mali (off camera)
and Chad (on camera).
Chad's
Permanent
Representative
has told Inner City Press that while they may be
“individual Chadians” fighting with Gadhafi, the Deby government
does not choose between him and the rebels.
On
camera,
Dabbashi said a Council resolution authorizing air strikes is needed
“in ten hours.”
“How many
planes
do you have?” Inner City Press asked Dabbashi. Enough, he said. He
said the rebels' use of these planes has driven Gadhafi crazy.
After
a
series of
questions about timing -- Dabbashi backed off the ten hour figure,
ending up saying the revolutionaries are “not counting” on the
Council -- Inner City Press asked him if the UN Secretariat has
spoken to him about the letter from Gadhafi's government saying he
and Shalgam no longer represent Libya, or if he thought the UN
Secretariat now recognized the rebels as the government,as France
has.
We
are continuing
our work with credentials, Dabbashi said.
He
was asked,
Where is Shalgam? He is here in New York, Dabbashi said.
Inner
City
Press
asked, “Where is Treki?”
“In Cairo,”
Dabbashi quickly answered.
Hillary
Clinton
in
Benghazi met with Ahmed Gebreel, who worked on Treki's transition
into the Presidency of the GA. There is talk of the UN of Ali Treki,
former President of the General Assembly, seeking to go into exile
rather than come to New York to represent Gadhafi at the UN. But his
family is still in Libya. Has there ever been an Ambassador at the
UN under duress?
Dabbashi earlier at UN: now, only 10 hours? Recognized by UN?
A
Western
spokesperson emerged from the Council to say that the Council is
going through the resolution paragraph by paragraph, given the
urgency.
Russian
Ambassador
Vitaly
Churkin came out and told press he was angry at being
portrayed as an obstructionist. The buzz is that Russia by asking
questions is seeking to slow things down. “They don't dare veto
it,” a source said, “so they seek to slow it down.” But what
about the US? Watch this site.
* * *
UN
Libya
Draft
Paused
on Whether All or Only Military Flights Would be
Banned
By
Matthew
Russell
Lee
UNITED
NATIONS,
March
15,
update -- Which flights would a No Fly Zone
over Libya actually
ban? All or only military flights?
Tuesday
at
the
UN
after Lebanon distributed a draft resolution that it said based based
on the Arab League's decision, German Permanent Representative Wittig
came out and told the Press that Germany questioned whether a no fly
zone would be inconsistent with the Arab League's opposition to
military intervention.
When
Tuesday's
Security
Council
consultations ended, to be resumed on Wednesday,
Inner City Press at the stakeout asked Lebanon's Ambassador about
Germany's stated concern that a No Fly Zone could be foreign
intervention.
He
said no, that
“the Libyan people” and the Arab League asked for it, and if the
UN Security Council authorized it, it could not be intervention.
In
the course of
further reporting, informed Council sources told Inner City Press
that issue in closed door consultations was that the Arab League, in
Arabic, referred to banning military flights, while the version
introduced at the UN in English would ban ALL flights. Lost in
translation? Watch this site.
Update of 5:20 pm --
French Ambassador Gerard Araud did not echo his foreign minister
Juppe's call to bomb Gadhafi's air fields in Libya, something that
Lebanon's Ambassador seemed to speak against at the stakeout, hoping
that approving a No Fly Zone would obviate the need to bomb. Hey:
Danish Foreign Affairs minister Lene Espersen has said Denmark
stands
ready,
with four jets and 90 staff....
Update of 5:44 pm:
India's Permanent Representative Hardeep Puri came out and told the
Press pointedly that the draft would ban ALL flights -- but as Inner
City Press first reported, is that what the Arab League has called for?
In Arabic?
Hardeep Singh
also said that India might not have the right kind of assets to enforce
a no fly zone.
Update of 5:59 pm --
when Chinese Permanent Representative Li Baodong, this month's Council
president, came to the stakeout, Inner City Press asked him to confirm
the closed door discussion of Arab League referring to military
flights, not the "all" in the draft resolution. "You're raised a good
question," he replies. So this is one of the issues Lebanon has
to check with the Arab League about overnight...
Update of 6:05 pm --
and now we have asked Lebanon's Mission to the UN, via their Twitter
account, to answer when they can. New era? We'll see.Click
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