| As OpenAI and Microsoft Are
Sued by NYT Even Locations of
Users Redacted
by
Matthew Russell Lee, Patreon Book
Substack
SDNY
COURTHOUSE,
Jan 15 –
Fiction writers and the
Authors Guild, as well as the
New York Times, have sued
OpenAI and Microsoft. On
November 29, 2024 the intial
pre-trial conference was held
before U.S. District Court for
the Southern District of New
York Judge Sidney H. Stein.
Inner City Press was there, thread.
Jump cut to
January 14, 2025, oral
arguments, from the thread:
Media lawyer:
Citing WireCutter may even
cause more harm, if it falsely
claims WireCutter
recommendation, if the product
gets recalled. We recommend
Black Friday Sales - it is
time sensitive. What is the
relevant news cycle... We
believe we can prove all
elements
Judge
Stein: Thanks- I have a lot to
think about, you'll get an
opinion in due course.
On October 8
Inner City Press live tweeted
again, this time the argument
on which versions of ChatGPT
are in the case, thread.
Jump cut against
to November 21, 2025 when
OpenAI wrote in complaining
about the NYT's "refus[al] to
confirm it will adequately
educate its designee on this
Topic by asking specific
reporters who have been
reporting on OpenAI about
their knowledge."
On January 22,
Inner City Press again live
tweeted, here
OpenAI lawyer: We
can only provide them that in
the aggregate, as we did in
March 2025 - it's the
information that says On this
date, this number of
user-initiated deletions
occurred. We've put it
together in a raw
response Plaintiffs'
lawyer: Can we get it by next
Wednesday January 21? OpenAI
lawyer: We'll endeavor...
Magistrate Judge Wang: It's
been said that the Court would
create a broad surveillance
state by keeping these logs -
that's unfounded, right? Both
sides: Yes.
Plaintiffs'
lawyer: They are even
redacting the city the user is
in. In a case involving the
NYT, NY Daily News, Orlando
Sentinel, San Jose Mercury
News, this is problematic. We
need to start over, redact
only Social Security numbers.
We have a protective order
Judge:
Solve it by Jan 22.
The overall case
is now In re OpenAI Copyright
Infringement Litigation,
1:25-md-3143 (Stein / Wang),
incorporating NYT v.
Microsoft, et al.,
1:23-cv-11196 (Stein / Wang)
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